STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

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@Captain:

I only have one sticky spot with like poles and that is in the center of the coil.  I wonder if it has to due with eddy currents in the washers.  This is interesting.


GB

[captainpecan]

Why is everyone overlooking using pairs of magnets with the same poles of each magnet attached to a metal backing plate?

Actually, you posted at the same time I was posting about the same issue.  I have the dual magnet setup.  I also am getting faster rpms with like poles.  But it does not match the Orbo demo for me as I just posted above, I now have two sticky spots per coil.  How about your setup, how many sticky spots per coil do you have?  If you are using like poles, and get only one sticky spot, then that means my core is to thin would be the only explanation I could come up with for my different results.  My thing is, even if like poles SEEM to run better, I'm trying to replicate as closely as possible the original demo.

[captainpecan]

Looks like we keep posting at the same time, lol...  I am out of time to experiment until tommarrow evening, but I think I have a hunch as to why I am getting different results.  The pairs of magnets I'm using are actually 2 stacks of 3 magnets for each pair.   I'm going to remove one magnet from each stack, and try again.  Then another layer... Then step down to ceramic if I need to...  I'm betting it's the thickness of my material, or the fact that my permeability is so much less than your cores is....  I'll report what I find tomarrow night...  I hope this solves my double sticky spot problem, because the rotor spins so much nicer with like poles.  Maybe I can fine tune this thing a bit, and find a sweat spot with a happy medium between magnet strength and low permeability, where it will use next to no current at all to drive the rotor.

[wings]

@ Ossie, great stuff!  Looks like your drifting, but in a good way!

@ all,
A couple interesting things to note from Steorn's argument with TK:

1st...  When asked to replace the battery with a capacitor, Sean gave a response that made no sense... "Not as easy as you may think - we need a pretty instant current responce (due to the rotational speed), hence the 'deep' battery."
....  WTF, this makes no sense.  Why would he post a reply like that?  Everybody knows caps are WAY faster at pushing instant current than any battery I've ever heard of!  There are a trillion other responses he could have had to that question, but this was not a response I expected.

2nd... Check out this quote... "As for the delay - there is no delay, there is a current rise, its very slow, thats due to the core material that we use."
....  This would certainly indicate that they DO NOT use normal core material for their toroidal coils.

I'm more confused than ever about Orbo now.  I get the feeling that either Sean is just playing dumb, or they are trying to throw off any replicators.  Either way is fine, it's their discovery, and they are releasing it at their own speed.  It's just weird responses from Sean is all I'm saying.

It is possible to run the motor with only a capacitor and solar panel,
the motor run from 10  to 30 milliamps :

[gravityblock]

Here's a quick video showing only one sticky spot in the center of the coil when both pairs of magnets have like poles facing the toroid.  I am holding a neo magnet trying to show how both magnets repel, but the video doesn't clearly show this.  I need to work on my video skills, lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRG4TGbgEg4

[Edit:]  @Captain:  How do you know the original Orbo demo isn't using like poles for the pair of magnets?  I thought this was still an open question that hasn't been answered yet.  I am also trying to replicate this as closely as possible.


GB