STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

[Jimboot]

Interesting quote, with possible hidden meaning behind it from Sean...  "We have 4 sets of strong neo magnets on it, and we have 4 coils.  These coils are toroidal coils positioned in a very specific way."

To me, this indicates that it is possible that not all magnets are exactly aligned with the coil at the exact same time.  Maybe we should keep this in mind when doing slight adjustments to our replications.  Maybe we need drift a bit away from having them all exactly in line.

LOL! I wish I could get my to line up! My first attempt actually worked better when they weren't lined up properly but I think I was simply compensating for inconsistent coil windings.

[captainpecan]

Can someone enlighten me here?  The way Sean explains getting more energy out then put in this time is a bit confusing to me.  He is of course talking about what we have all already discussed about the change in reluctance of the coils, that part I get.  I dont see where he is claiming the excess is coming from though.  He is saying it takes less energy to build the field, than he get's back out of the collapsing field due to the increased inductance from the passing magnets.  What about the energy used to keep the field built up?

Let me see if I can explain somehow what my question is better.  The numbers I'm using are not correct, I'm just throwing number out there... But what I'm trying to say is this....
If you have a 5 ms pulse.  During the 1st ms, the votage is turned on, and the current follows slightly behind it due to the permeability of his cores.  This takes lets say 2mw of energy to build the field.  On the 5th ms, the connection is broken and field collapses.  This time the inductance of the coil was higher and now we get 3mw back out of it.  2mw in, and 3mw out... an energy gain...  But only if you forget about 2nd, 3rd, and 4th ms that the energy was being used to keep the field built up.  So overall there would be an energy loss.  I am assuming this is where the energy is supposed to be showing up as heat, and kinetic from the rotor.  But Sean makes it sound like he is getting more ELECTRICAL energy out, than ELECTRICAL energy in when he describes it this time.

Any thoughts...  Am I looking at this wrong, or hearing him wrong?

[esaruoho]

Steorn examine attempted replications of Orbo technology:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_MA86Czou8&feature=sub

[maw2432]

Steorn examine attempted replications of Orbo technology:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_MA86Czou8&feature=sub

Sorry,  could someone please explain what he is saying in this video in more understandable terms. 

I also watched the videos of his second demo in Dublin... very small group of people... looks like less than 40...   It would seem that more people would be interested.   Questions were not that good.  I hate to say this, but it looked like a small group of street people that were ushered in for a free cup of coffee with maybe a few planted questions.  Not that impressive.  Sorry for my bad impression.... but I call it the way I see it.

Bill



Bill

[ltseung888]

Can someone enlighten me here?  The way Sean explains getting more energy out then put in this time is a bit confusing to me.  He is of course talking about what we have all already discussed about the change in reluctance of the coils, that part I get.  I dont see where he is claiming the excess is coming from though.  He is saying it takes less energy to build the field, than he get's back out of the collapsing field due to the increased inductance from the passing magnets.  What about the energy used to keep the field built up?

Let me see if I can explain somehow what my question is better.  The numbers I'm using are not correct, I'm just throwing number out there... But what I'm trying to say is this....
If you have a 5 ms pulse.  During the 1st ms, the votage is turned on, and the current follows slightly behind it due to the permeability of his cores.  This takes lets say 2mw of energy to build the field.  On the 5th ms, the connection is broken and field collapses.  This time the inductance of the coil was higher and now we get 3mw back out of it.  2mw in, and 3mw out... an energy gain...  But only if you forget about 2nd, 3rd, and 4th ms that the energy was being used to keep the field built up.  So overall there would be an energy loss.  I am assuming this is where the energy is supposed to be showing up as heat, and kinetic from the rotor.  But Sean makes it sound like he is getting more ELECTRICAL energy out, than ELECTRICAL energy in when he describes it this time.

Any thoughts...  Am I looking at this wrong, or hearing him wrong?

I believe most of you still have the mind-block of the Law of Conservation of Energy.  You still think that the output energy cannot possibly be greater than the input energy as that violated the Law of Conservation of Energy.

If you think of the Orbo as leading-out (or bringing-in) electron motion energy from the surrounding, then the problem is solved.  To be more specific, magnetic energy is a form of electron motion.  When an electron orbits around the nucleus, a tiny magnetic field is produced (or the equivalent of a tiny magnet).  We can use a bit of electromagnetic energy to align such electrons.  These aligned electrons (or tiny magnets) will provide the additional energy to the system. The Tong Po Chi Lead-Out Energy Machine demonstrated to over 25,000 persons in Hong Kong can do that.  The Orbo can also do that.

Details are in the Lee-Tseung Lead-Out Energy thread on this forum.