STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

[Airstriker]

HUGE experiment by JLN labs!  I had heard Sean from Steorn mention the importance of "POSITION" of the toroidal coils, and NOW we know why!  So, to briefly recap, we now have three main specs to work with...  1.  Proper permeablity of core for needed Saturation.  2.  Magnets, paired of 1 Tesla or 10000 gauss each, one facing North and one facing South.  3.  The EXACT position on the Netral line between the two magnets for the Toroid.    Ahh...the smell of progress! 

But...Hmm...it still appears that there are TWO toroid, one above the other on the Demo, and they are not positioned on the neutral line.  I wonder if JLN Labs had held the toroid with the hole facing the magnets, and tested with one magnet in front of it, if the CEMF would be nil.  This would also make sense based on the Demo rigs....hmm...
Cheers,

Bruce

JLN is right and wrong at the same time. With his toroid orientation versus magnets there is no CEMF observed. Right. But this will not make his ORBO work ! Notice one thing. The toroid orientation JLN is using is only used in Sean's demo experiments. Original ORBO machine uses totally different toroid orientation. Why did they do it? For fun ? No! They wanted you all to go in a wrong direction. Only in the original ORBO's toroid orientation (toroid face meets the face of the magnets) the flux from the magnets is going through the whole core's circumference (exactly and only what you've showed exnihiloest), thus we end up with partially saturated core and don't need a big current to fully saturate the core. You would have already known that if you've read carefully what I've written earlier ;]

gravityblock:
According to what you're saying, metglas is a black hole on earth. It eats magnetic field energy. Cool! Go get some sleep ;]

[neptune]

In his recent talk , during the part where he answers questions, Sean McCarthy says words to the effect that " this is not like some guy in his garage trying to discover free energy."  Sean obviously underestimates guys working in garages .  So far , the skill levels displayed in reverse engineering this effect have amazed me . Praise is due to Wings for working out the purpose of the micrometer. For the home builder , individual adjustment of toroid position might be easier . Praise is also due to JL Nadine , for showing cancellation of CEMF , and his expt shorting two toroids. I think we may see OU before February.

[Bruce_TPU]

Hehehe ...

Who can tell me the difference between the "orbo motor" and the "pulse motor"??  Anyone?  Bueller?   LOL

For the demo rig, I will tell you... JLN is correct!  Please go to 4:06 for Part 2 and hit pause.  the unit on the left is Orbo...why?  NO CEMF.  Why?  Because on this machine you have the toroid EXACTLY lined up on the Neutral line between the North and South facing magnets.

Now...Look at the "pulse motor" on the right...what do you see?  You see the toroid Higher ABOVE the neutral line, and thus inducing CMF into the machine. 

Lastly, I am starting to doubt that the toroids are 1".  They are looking more like 3/4".  Can someone help me deduce the correct size please?  Thank you!!

Cheers,

Bruce

[Bruce_TPU]

Okay, I deduce that they are using 3/8" disc magnets.  One facing is North and the other South.

Cheers,

Bruce

[captainpecan]

Great catch Bruce, that's some funny shit right there, lol... I think you nailed the bemf shown on the meter exactly.

Also, I am pretty sure they are also using N and S magnets also.  If you think about the fact that they need as short of a pulse width as possible, placing a N and a S magnet completes a magnetic circuit in a much smaller area of spread, since almost the entire set of flux lines are heading the quickest route to the other magnet.  Two like poles, such as N and N, would repel against each other, thus creating a much wider area for the inductance to change.  That would require a much longer pulse.  So I think this project is pretty well picked apart.