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STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

Started by PaulLowrance, December 04, 2009, 09:13:07 AM

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Airstriker

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January 18, 2010, 08:55:37 AM
Quote from: teslaalset on January 18, 2010, 08:05:30 AM
@PaulLawrence:

Impressive analysis Paul. Thanks for sharing.

In your enthusiasm you might have overlooked the option I proposed earlier to recycle the current that is stored in the coil.
If you mount a (fast) diode in parallel to the coil you re-use another wasted energy source.
The coil holds P=0.5*L*I^2 W. The diode will push that energy to the coil after switching off.
In this way you can switch off earlier in time and thus use less power resulting in same mechanical output.

What your view on this?
As I've said earlier, I don't think there is much sense in the recycle circuit, as the metglas material has very high remanence value (about 0.5 T) comparing to BSAT which is 0.57T.

PaulLowrance

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January 18, 2010, 09:17:36 AM
Quote from: Airstriker on January 18, 2010, 08:55:37 AM
As I've said earlier, I don't think there is much sense in the recycle circuit, as the metglas material has very high remanence value (about 0.5 T) comparing to BSAT which is 0.57T.

No so in the Orbo. That's only if a square loop core is going to be flipped. If it does not go near the flipping point, then it's rather linear, and you get nearly all of the energy back. In my 37 turn metglas core, the inductance is 35 *micro* henry to at least 4 amps and probably far high levels of current. Although if the current is taken to a certain point, then the core flips, and then you have massive inductance.  :)

btw, the field on the metglas from the NdFeB is no were near 0.5T. In fact, if you do a FEMM analysis you'll see it's far far lower. Furthremore, the *effective* permeability on the metglas core in an *open* magnetic loop (in the case of the NdFeB magnet) is extremely low, far below 20.

Bruce_TPU

#1917
January 18, 2010, 09:46:33 AM
Hi Paul,

So you would still recomend 37 turns on our new cores?  Did you use 20 awg wire for your turns?

Thanks and great job!

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

teslaalset

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January 18, 2010, 10:18:36 AM
Quote from: PaulLowrance on January 18, 2010, 08:52:19 AM
Well Sean & Steorn shot down TK's & everyone elses voltage & current scope photos, except mine so far. TK's scope photos are nothing like Steorns in terms of the RL rise times, as Steorn's is a square wave. So it looks like the metglas cores are the hot ticket.

Good luck on your replications boys & girls.  ;D

Paul, can you mention once more what exact metglas core we need to order?
Thanks,

Bruce_TPU

#1919
January 18, 2010, 10:43:28 AM
Hello ALL,

Build video #3, as everything starts to take shape...  ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a85zP0IiW8M

Quote from: teslaalset on January 18, 2010, 10:18:36 AM
Paul, can you mention once more what exact metglas core we need to order?
Thanks,

Not to answer for Paul, but it was the MP2510P4AS

http://www.metglas.com/products/page5_1_6_4_1_b.asp
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.
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