STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

[Omnibus]

The nonsense is to assert that the energy wasted in Joule losses are the same as the work done to align the electron spins.
If you are not able to distinguish wasted energy for heating a resistance from useful energy indirectly powering a motor via spin alignments, sure you will see overunity everywhere!

That's nonsense. The experiment is about energy balance. Read carefully what I wrote and try to study and understand it. Steorn correctly carry out their energy balance and you'll do better not to clog the discussion with misinterpretations due to you poor understanding of the experiment.

[Omnibus]

@mondrasek,

I have also, unfortunately, not seen anything (demo, replication, etc.) that fully corroborates their claim.

Like I said earlier, Steorn are way ahead of everybody especially regarding the advanced equipment they use let alone the methodology they apply in their study. That's unfortunate for them in a way because corroboration of their claims cannot be expected from the generally poor equipped replicators. In addition, sadly, there's a lot of misunderstanding of what they do, as is seen in many of the posts here. That's,of course, the lesser evil. The main problem is that practically no one around can reach the sophistication of the experiments Steorn presents. Something has to be done about that and that level of experimentation has to be applied to everything else in the field (Adams, Bedini, Paul Sprain motors, solid state devices etc.) so that conclusive results of the type Steorn presents can be obtained after so many years of semi-amateur work.

[Omnibus]

Steorn have reached unprecedented level of sophistication in their experiments unmatched by anything in the field of OU. We all should take notice and should try to do something to catch up with them.

[freeorbo]

I think it is likely that this magnetic interaction requires energy -- energy that would not be reflected in the I^R heating measurement.

It doesn't require energy, that's the whole nature of the claim. The simple presence of the rising current in the toroidal coil breaks the magnetic force lines between the core and the magnet. That's why they're just measuring I^R, they're just trying to show how much current you have to have present in the coils to show the effect, and the way to measure that is to measure the joule heating that's an after effect of the current.

And due to the inductive gain, the amount of current present in the coils actually goes down during the interaction, meaning an actively pulsed, interacting coil has even less current present in it than if it were measured with a steady current.

[freeorbo]

Where are the reports from those who have been trying to replicate?  What are your results, positive or negative?  Please provide your observations and data!

i spent the day building and playing with Naudin's s2Gen experiment. I've written up some of my initial thoughts, here:

http://freeorbo.wordpress.com/2010/02/21/ive-made-free-energy-steorn-is-right/

I will say that replicating this has given me a much deeper understanding the Steorn claim, and I can now say with utmost confidence that they did test it correctly and that their final proof did demonstrate overunity.

If you watch all of Naudin's videos and read his writeup:

http://jnaudin.free.fr/2SGen/indexen.htm

You may start to understand as well, but I highly highly suggest you attempt to recreate his experiment. It's a good litmus test. As much as I have written about and thought about and read about Steorn's claim, I can admit now that I didn't really fully understand it until this weekend.

The first Steorn demo, showing that there is no backEMF in the system, is really important and very underplayed by Sean in the demo. He does the demo without really discussing the implications. What it's saying is, they have created action without equal and opposite reaction. This doesn't just mean that there's no magnetic friction and that you have a more efficient rotor. It plainly means that work is being done with no source input. The work being done is not tied to any other energy. There is no see saw. Nothing goes down for it to go up. It is literally new energy that never existed before.

I had been caught up on this idea that we needed to see a set input and be able to compare it to an output and that the output must be bigger. Or that the battery somehow means it's not free energy. None of that of course is true.

If I pour a gallon of water down a drain and that magically causes a gallon pitcher across the room to become full, it all still adds up to more water than I started with. The gallon of water is still down the drain, and overall there is still a gallon more water than the world started with. I'm not net zero, I'm up a gallon.

I don't need to have two gallons in my hands to have a gain. Does that make sense?