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STEORN DEMO LIVE & STREAM in Dublin, December 15th, 10 AM

Started by PaulLowrance, December 04, 2009, 09:13:07 AM

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Omnibus

Here's a short text I just wrote to get us started with the derivation:

Omega_0

Please copy-paste this expression in wolframalpha

integrate  (sin(ax))*(sin(ax+theta))  dx

http://www.wolframalpha.com
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blueplanet

There is no need to do this if you are looking for the slope only --- particularly when the expression of the integrand is already given.

Steorn's situation is different. I understand it is difficult to compare the spikes by visual inspection.



Quote from: Omega_0 on July 03, 2010, 05:44:07 PM
Please copy-paste this expression in wolframalpha

integrate  (sin(ax))*(sin(ax+theta))  dx

http://www.wolframalpha.com

Omnibus

@All,

Please take a look at the attached theoretical writeup which gives a rigorous derivation of Pout/Pin problem we're discussing. As seen, theoretically, that ratio should be unity in all cases. It appear that @Omega_0's remark regarding the floating point errors as the cause for the observed discrepancies in the numerical integration with Excel hit the nail on the head. This rigorous theoretical derivation should provide a solid foundation when searching for the truth regarding the reported experimental OU.


P.S. @Omega_0, thanks a lot for providing that great link to Mathematica.

Omega_0

Good job Omnibus. I hope someone good in math will cross check your calculations.
Now, about the experimental results, I'd recommend the method of accounting for all energies separately, and if it still leaves any excess (above noise floor), you have something.
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