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Gravity wheel of Mikhail Dmitriyev

Started by hartiberlin, December 08, 2009, 01:45:22 PM

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sterlinga

I've created a feature page on this here: http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Mikhail_Dmitriev_Gravity_Wheel

Mikhail Dmitriev Gravity Wheel - This Russian inventor has been developing gravity-based power systems for years and says that the design has been widely replicated in Russia, even powering some houses. He says he has posted all necessary information to build the device, in which a small amount of power input generates much greater power output. (PESWiki; January 30, 2011)

I also created an animation.
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exnihiloest

Quote from: dmfed on March 14, 2010, 04:38:34 AM
This is not a dream, this is a reality.
All  procedures that you mentioned I have  realised, they already passed  and  done :
- the working model exist;
...

Where is it? We have to verify it.

Wm2d works according to the laws of physics. Therefore it is impossible to simulate a perpetual motion, except by setting conditions with unphysical parameters or by exploiting software bugs (every one having played with wm2d knows that it is possible to modelize virtual pseudo-perpetual machine using the software holes).



Nihilanth

I welcome anybody who's keeps their work open source & non-commercial. Dmitriev deserves both my respect & benefit of the doubt when it comes to his claims.

Every time it seems I think of replicating an overunity device, one more pops up that seems all the more appealing. Yet I can't help but wonder, if I were to put this in my car, which direction would the ratchet go best: to get energy from accelerating, or decelerating? Why does it always go back to cars? ::)
"I think it's better to have ideas [than beliefs.] You can change an idea. Changing a belief is trickier. Life should malleable and progressive; working from idea to idea permits that. Beliefs anchor you to certain points and limit growth; new ideas can't generate. Life becomes stagnant." - Rufus the 13 Apostle.

broli

Quote from: exnihiloest on January 30, 2011, 06:25:17 AM
Where is it? We have to verify it.

Wm2d works according to the laws of physics. Therefore it is impossible to simulate a perpetual motion, except by setting conditions with unphysical parameters or by exploiting software bugs (every one having played with wm2d knows that it is possible to modelize virtual pseudo-perpetual machine using the software holes).

Wm2d uses constraint based physics, constraints rules are used throughout the simulation to continuously modify velocities and position. One of the main constraint is energy conservation. So wm2d will never show you a violation of conservation of energy if you use rods and pins unless the simulation step size is not low enough.

The only way to verify it is in a real lab.

What is odd is that that video is from October. Surely someone so sure of his design would have built perhaps a better one which does take the power out from the big wheel. It's one thing to show a spinning wheel using a motor, but another to speak of output numbers when there's no generator in sight.

Omnibus

@broli,

While I do agree that to overturn the existing perceptions in science that CoE is inviolable a working perpetuum mobile, replicable by independent parties has to be demonstrated, that is only because of psychological reasons characteristic for the society we live in. If it were for pure scientific reasons, there are already sufficient arguments categorically proving that CoE can be violated even for reasons inherent in the standard theory. Unfortunately, the scientific method is only paid lip service nowadays.

Here's another example of inherent violation of CoE in the standard theoretical physics. CoE in a system is stated by H = T + V = const where H is the total energy of the mechanical system, T is the kinetic anergy and V is the potential energy of that system.

Further, according to the most general equations in classical mechanics, namely, Hamilton's equations, we have partialdH/partialdpi = partialdqi/partialdt and partialdH/partialdqi = -partialdpi/partialdt where pi is the generalized momentum and pi is the generalized coordinate and t is time.

Form the above it follows directly that partialdqi/partialt = 0 and -partialdpi/partialt = 0. Therefore, qi = const and -pi= const.

In other words, in order for Hamilton's equations, which are the equations of motion (that is, equations valid for v =/= 0) to be in effect for a conservative system that system has to be at velocity v = 0, that is, the system must be at rest. Thus, in order for CoE to be in effect the most general equations of motion in mechanics require the system to be at rest.

As seen, the basics of theoretical mechanics don't comply with its own CoE requirement when the system is in motion.

This is just one more example of the fallacies the science ruling today is subjected to. To keep them from becoming widely known there is vigourous propaganda and suppression which knows no limits to intimidation, mockery and manipulation.