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Cooling effects in Steorn eOrbo

Started by PaulLowrance, December 26, 2009, 11:45:15 AM

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Magluvin

Well if the chilling effects do exist, it can take away some of that heat they claim to be producing.
It seems to me that the eorbo is way off from what they have had everyone believe they had.
Its not free at all, and they say so. At peswiki a replicator has a repl. going and it does work, but it is far from free.
And a yt vid of the release of a magnet from a toroid coil when powered releases shows the effect quite well.
But man it isnt what I expected at all from them.

Mags

PaulLowrance

Quote from: PaulLowrance on December 28, 2009, 10:32:15 AM
The spinning magnets do not effect the IR gun.

Again, the measured temperatures went *BELOW* ambient temperature. So it is not due to circulating air.

Last night I completed the control experiments.


I am now convinced this is a real cooling effect. I'm now convinced it is possible to capture excess energy from magnetic materials. It seems that it might have something to do with the state of the magnetic material. Beyond that I have no idea. It could be something as simple as the way the domains are structured. Magnetic domains do not form pretty perfect little symmetrical formations. Another option is the effect could be from an unknown source of energy.

Over time the effect fades. So anyone working on the eOrbo replications are highly encouraged to measure temperatures from the start.

All of the details are on video. So I've replicated it many times. By last night the effect was totally gone, and last night, after trying to replicate it I learned that there is no way to get the temperature to drop like that. In fact, it increases above ambient, not below.

The effect is *not* due to air circulation. In the video the temperature dropped like a rock as soon as the dremel was turned on. And the part of the video not shown is where I disconnect all of the clip leads and the temperature begins to increase to the normal ambient temperature. So it is very clear to me in that particular case the wire connections were somehow aiding the effect.

What is interesting is that this effect fades with usage. I have seen this effect countless times in peizos & diodes. The Steorn eOrbo has shown the same effect. Look how often they have to replace the eOrbos. I don't buy the story of the relays failing that often. Even the steorn guy said he's puzzled. Also, I question that the 1st Steorn demo years ago had anything to do with the bearings. This effect could be due to an unknown source of energy, that varies from location to location, or that varies over time, or varies with usage. What if the first Orbo machine ran just perfect at the Steorn building, but after running it for awhile at the demo location it failed.

And lets consider the major issue with cold fusion. Anyone who's seen the recent 60 Minutes TV show interview saw that cold fusion was verified by an anonymous scientist, but the issue they are having is ... once again "stability!"  And so far they have been unable to solve the cold fusion stability issue.

And then there's the incident that occurred years ago during the start of my magnetic research where I was doing an experiment to try to capture ambient thermal energy via a magnetic core. I was using the computer parallel port via software to control the pulse timing. There input source was a capacitor, and the output went into charging capacitors. So the total input energy & output energy could be calculated. And yes, I was well aware of dielectric absorption. Time after time it would not work. One morning, without changing anything, the first thing I did was run the software, and to my surprise the charging capacitors charged far above the cop>1 point. And what was weird is that the magnetic core made the strangest sound like I've never heard before, like a deep breathing sound. I was never able to replicate that.

Oh yes, and there's my MCE (magnetocaloric effect) experiments, which also showed the same effect in that the magnetic core was highly unstable in terms of showing MCE at room temperatures. Time after time I saw how the MCE would show up during the first few measurements, but would fade over time. This was seen in various different types of magnetic materials. The mystery was never solved.

So there is something very strange going on.


I'm still wowed by this significant cooling effect. After watching the full video time after time it's amazing. Actually the lowest temperature of the toroid / magnets went was 64.6°F. Later on in the video I pick up the IR gun and point it at various locations near the toroid & magnet. It shows the ambient temperature (away from the dremel) was 67.2°F to 67.8°F. And the exterior part of the dremel is 83.4°F. Anything near the dremel is hotter. The magnets are connected to the dremel, and so they have to counteract that heat. And the spinning magnets affect the air around it, and the toroid is underneath the magnets. So if there was no cooling effect, the toroid & magnet temperatures would be higher than ambient temperature, but they were not. They were 64.6°F or less. I say "less" because a lot of what the IR gun was pointing at was the wooden desk, so the IR gun takes the average temperature in it's view. So who knows just how cold the toroid / magnets got. Prior to taking the temperature measurements I kept filling an obviously cold breeze far colder than before.

I'll try my best to replicate this, but if the excess energy is related to the excess energy found in piezos and diodes, then it could take anywhere from a day to 3 weeks for the magnets / toroid to recover.

It sure will be nice when someone discovers how to quickly reset this effect or whatever it will be called, rather than having to wait.  :)


PaulLowrance

I found out the rpm in the video is either 8600 rpm

PaulLowrance

It's 8600 rpm. There are 4 magnets, and you can see all 4 pulses on the scope per cycle. The scope was on 2ms / div, and all four pulses takes ~ 3.5 divisions. That comes to 143 Hz, which equals 8600 rpm.

PaulLowrance

Also something else I learned last night was the connection to the dual power supply, which was turned off during the video footage, shorts nearly all of the AC pulses from the rotating magnets. The DMM in diode mode shows 0.569V, both ways. The DMM wires were reversed and it still shows 0.569V. Also the dual power supply is 600 ohms, either polarity.

When the magnets are spinning, the scope shows the AC voltage across the dual power supply (while it's off and connected to one of the toroids winginds) is about 1/100th as the other toroids windings. So the dual power supply is not really shorting the entire core, and in fact has a small effect on the overall core.

Outline: So the toroid has one large winding, ~ 200 ohms, and is split in two. The dual power supply is one half, and the 0.1uF * scope are the other other half. The signal across the dual power supply is almost zero, while the signal across the other winding (0.1uF) is ~ 10 to 16 V pp (actually I have not measured it precisely yet).