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New Jewel Thief "Resonate LCR Circuit" Much less energy draw....

Started by sirmikey1, January 01, 2010, 09:25:10 AM

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sirmikey1

Jadaro,

  Your freq values look like full wave and then half wave rectification caused by the transistor diodes.  Is the pnp pulsing the npn? 

   With one joule thief running, testing two coils, I get 21khz with one and  58khz with the other.  If I crank up the old JT beside it, the values change to 10khz and 78khz.  Atmosphere has everything to do with it.   

  Koolerization, I made comment on your AA KV video that you might use one spark to pulse another coil/spark, creating fat hairy spurred/spiked white Tesla sparks.

Hail Tesla...
Mikey

gadgetmall

Quote from: Tink on January 02, 2010, 12:12:02 PM
Gadgetmall,
The man said in his movie "one turn of insulated wire", he meant that his super Joule-thief will also work with a one turn of insulated wire as an aircore coil.
I do agree with you that just one loop of wire is in fact a coil, what I find hard to believe is that his circuit will oscilate at a frequency of some 400 or more MegaHertz.
I think that his one loop of wire just works as a direct connection to the red led and his oscilator circuit doesn't oscilate at all.
It will work with normal coils though as he has stated.

David7630274,
Calling me a liar?
Red leds do light up with just a normal 1.5 Volt battery without a series resistor needed (although not very bright).
Since I have some 700 red leds laying about you can buy them from me, but of course these leds are magical so I will charge you 10 Euros a piece.
Your Exactly Right Tink and i have several red leds that will operate on less than 1.5 volts actually they run red at 0.8 volts . They are Clear and easily light with a piece of copper wire and and galvanizes nail stuck in the dirt :) They are precious little jewels  but as you said you don't need a Jt to run them at all .
Gadget
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xee2

@ jadaro2600

Quote from: jadaro2600 on January 02, 2010, 07:47:53 PM
It would be interesting to figure a way out to get a secondary on this thing

Attached drawing may work. I have not tested it.


jadaro2600

Quote from: sirmikey1 on January 02, 2010, 08:57:11 PM
Jadaro,

  Your freq values look like full wave and then half wave rectification caused by the transistor diodes.  Is the pnp pulsing the npn? 

   With one joule thief running, testing two coils, I get 21khz with one and  58khz with the other.  If I crank up the old JT beside it, the values change to 10khz and 78khz.  Atmosphere has everything to do with it.   

  Koolerization, I made comment on your AA KV video that you need to use one spark to pulse another coil/spark, creating fat hairy spurred Tesla sparks.

Hail Tesla...
Mikey

I'll see what other measurements I can take, but I've had little results with the numbers.  I'm going to attempt to use a mated transformer and see what happens. ..I was able to replace the path from the negative side of the LED with a capacitor, and have it light, it was dim though..

In other words, I place a capacitor-led in series and connect that way and it seems to function at a lower level.

Quote from: xee2 on January 02, 2010, 09:46:06 PM
@ jadaro2600

Attached drawing may work. I have not tested it.
I just tested with some interesting results...I used this paired inductor I found from a box of scraps, it's just two coils, side by side, as you have in your diagram.  I reposted, ..it seems that the circuit will operate with one side of the capacitor connected to nothing, ..just ambient, I wonder what would happen if the other side were connected to an antenna?

The circuit works as you posted it, I just posted my observation.


sirmikey1


xee2,

   I wired your mod exactly (no R2), "SUCCESSFUL".  This wiring is much cleaner than the orginal JT circuit which was pumping voltage into both coils, had the bifillars connected.  The only neg here is the two extra parts, but it's worth it to me just to have the secondary working like a transformer. 

MA INPUT: 26ma
MA OUTPUT 6.5ma
Out Voltage: 2.5V DC with identical primary/secondary coils (bifilar).
Frequency 100khz at LED leads.  \

  I hear that 20 turns primary with 200 turns secondary does much better. That 4kv trigger coil is probably the think to do:
http://www.mouser.com/Search/Refine.aspx?Keyword=4kv+trigger

EDIT:
Jadaro,
  That mod does not oscillate for me, oscillator as antenna.  Please double check your wiring, just for peace of mind.

Mikey