Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump

[Spider]

Did a quick test, no OU yet
Inductive coupling lights both lamps, but not more out then in.

I agree with bruce tony, its time for some facts now.


Spider.

[IWD]

Hi agentgates

you work is looking very good, but ....on you pictures are still only BEMF, pls give to us some videos you already promis. And..

To you first version... the current reading from the display can be misguided, because is operating in the square wave, and you can have let say... 20A spikes on the primary which warm up the tranzistors of course, even with 3A source as you show. Because in source of that types are smoothing capacitors, which are able do delivery that current, depending of their capacity of course, and the impedance of the priamry, which are very smal in the case of zig zag winding. So ..disruptiv discharge occurs, and that can have some benefits, as tesla already found. You can connect a smal resistor in serie of primary and measure by scope the real current passing thru.

[agentgates]

Hi Tony,

Thank you for answering everyones questions.  But, I am not clear on mine.  You gave the output voltage, but not the output amps when answering my question.  If you could clarify what the output amps were, that would be great.  There are concerns that this may simply transforming the power into high voltage, that is why amp readings are needed.

A circuit, even roughly drawn would also be great, posted.  This is day 2 and still no circuit.  Even if it is the one you started with.  We know you are working hard on simplifying the electronics, which we are grateful for, but we would like to peek at the other circuits you have used to make it work.  Just draw it and take a picture if you need to save time.

Lastly, a video, showing power in, volts and amps and power out, showing volts and amps would also be wonderful.  Do this, and the replications will be flying.  Thank you!!

Cheers,

Bruce

1. I am too busy to argue.
2. I can't remember deadline.
3. I am not releasing demos of overheating devices, I am not SM.
4. I am not your employee, so please wait for your turn.
5. No current measurement until the 3 or 4 channels is not wound and driven. Reason --> there is no point. (you didn't understand the concept)
6. Again --> that is O.N.E. spike. Multiple spikes will be shorter.
7. That is what I am doing now.

[ramset]

Tony
I know these kind of things worried you [strong personalities]
Fact is your the Boss.
And we all appreciate [understatement] what you are doing.
No body has ever done this before at OU [except to play a joke]

Chet

Patience is a virtue

[Magluvin]

Had a weird thought, wouldnt a twisted pair be like a continuous DOT? 
Always thinking

Nice graphs zero.  This is an example of some questions I have.  Im assuming the theory is the event happens at the crossings and the spaces help prevent dot interactions, not as a transformer interaction as a whole. Otherwise spacing would not be necessary.

That is why the question of the proximity of inner primary to the secondary as to the outer primary to the secondary. If the suspended webbing inside furthers the distance from the secondary, that makes a significant difference of how those inner webs have effort on their crossings compared to the outer primary that is actually touching the secondary.
This is why those graphs are sweet in visualizing that and the many differences there can be.
If the inner primary needs to be "touching" the secondary as is the outer primary, then the webbing and tube thickness is a hindrance to the effect. 
On the other hand, if the inner primary actually touching the secondary proves no effect, then I would assume the inner is canceling the outer and tighter vortex webbing is necessary as to only allow the outer primary to be in physical contact with the secondary.

This brings me to another conclusion. Consider the magnetic spin around the primary as a disk on each primary at the crossing. Each disk will be cutting the other primary wire lengthwise as to split the wire in two, just to visualize, now visualize how those disks cut the secondary, all of this at a common crossing. If the effect is as told to us, then those inner primaries need to be in physical connection, as in touching not conducting, in order equal affect on the secondary by both the inner and outer primaries.

As to how to get this optimum contact, the primaries, inner and outer need bothe be zig zagged outside the tube so their crossings are tight. Using pins as we use the cuts to pivot each zag. This way we get all 3, the inner P the outer P and the secondary DOTs all connected physically for optimum effect as a 3 way combo, at every dot.

And as vision continues, if even spacing is a key here, imagine one square space as seen in these latest pics, and apply that spacing also between each layer of windig as to spac out the inner then secondary, then the outer and when done the inner dia will be like 3/4 in less that the outer.  Like if you have a 4 in pvc tube 1/4 in wall, then have another 1/4 in wall tube that fitts inside the 4 in. with just enough space to wrap a secondary. Then wrap the secondary to the smaller tube, slid into the outer tube, then wrap the primary around the 2 tubes as a whole.  Imagine the electron tornados that would exist inside.

Andey Callanan    that Deyo  toroid looks a lot like what I thought about and described earlier Thanks for that link by the way.

Mags