Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump

[leo48]

This is my version of the ring, the primary has 25 turns of 0.3 mm and 0.8 mm from the secondary 16 turns I can make an electronic file for pulses.
leo48

[altair]

Magluvin, you just saved me at least 1/2 hour of typing to explain what I was thinking. We are on the same wavelength !

The main question is: Should the secondary ideally be enclosed inside the 3 primaries, which implies that the inner and outer parts of primaries are NOT touching each other, OR:
The primaries are wound totally on the outside of the tube, which creates a flat cylindrical mesh, and then the secondary is placed against it.

Cheers

altair

Had a weird thought, wouldnt a twisted pair be like a continuous DOT? 
Always thinking

Nice graphs zero.  This is an example of some questions I have.  Im assuming the theory is the event happens at the crossings and the spaces help prevent dot interactions, not as a transformer interaction as a whole. Otherwise spacing would not be necessary.

That is why the question of the proximity of inner primary to the secondary as to the outer primary to the secondary. If the suspended webbing inside furthers the distance from the secondary, that makes a significant difference of how those inner webs have effort on their crossings compared to the outer primary that is actually touching the secondary.
This is why those graphs are sweet in visualizing that and the many differences there can be.
If the inner primary needs to be "touching" the secondary as is the outer primary, then the webbing and tube thickness is a hindrance to the effect. 
On the other hand, if the inner primary actually touching the secondary proves no effect, then I would assume the inner is canceling the outer and tighter vortex webbing is necessary as to only allow the outer primary to be in physical contact with the secondary.

This brings me to another conclusion. Consider the magnetic spin around the primary as a disk on each primary at the crossing. Each disk will be cutting the other primary wire lengthwise as to split the wire in two, just to visualize, now visualize how those disks cut the secondary, all of this at a common crossing. If the effect is as told to us, then those inner primaries need to be in physical connection, as in touching not conducting, in order equal affect on the secondary by both the inner and outer primaries.

As to how to get this optimum contact, the primaries, inner and outer need bothe be zig zagged outside the tube so their crossings are tight. Using pins as we use the cuts to pivot each zag. This way we get all 3, the inner P the outer P and the secondary DOTs all connected physically for optimum effect as a 3 way combo, at every dot.

And as vision continues, if even spacing is a key here, imagine one square space as seen in these latest pics, and apply that spacing also between each layer of windig as to spac out the inner then secondary, then the outer and when done the inner dia will be like 3/4 in less that the outer.  Like if you have a 4 in pvc tube 1/4 in wall, then have another 1/4 in wall tube that fitts inside the 4 in. with just enough space to wrap a secondary. Then wrap the secondary to the smaller tube, slid into the outer tube, then wrap the primary around the 2 tubes as a whole.  Imagine the electron tornados that would exist inside.

Andey Callanan    that Deyo  toroid looks a lot like what I thought about and described earlier Thanks for that link by the way.

Mags

[starcruiser]

Tony, Just keep on Keeping on, we appreciate your contribution and want to help move this forward for you. Even if the results of the design is not what yo expect we all learn something right? I see this as progress no matter what as I am sure others do as well.

What might be, and I stress "might", required is a review of how you are releasing the info and your test results. I am not criticizing how you are doing anything but making suggestions. Perhaps take a week to finish some of your work and gather your thoughts and data and then present that to the community. I understand you want to share but I believe some project management is needed to reduce your stress and make more progress.

If others want to contribute that is great and should be encouraged but it needs to be explained that your time is valuable too and you have to focus on your work as well. Please do not get caught up in the noise here on the forum and let it discourage you.

Please consider;

1. weekly updates, set a release schedule and try to adhere to it
2. set a day and/or time to be on the forum to answer questions for those who are replicating and to support discussion of ways to improve or further
3. providing schematics and videos (when possible) to assist those who are trying to support your efforts
4. ignoring the noise and negative comments when possible, there will be those that will try and derail you due to various reasons.

Again these are suggestions Tony and please accept them as such. I am not trying to tell you what to do but provide some support.

Thanks for your efforts thus far,

Carl

[broli]

Tony, Just keep on Keeping on, we appreciate your contribution and want to help move this forward for you. Even if the results of the design is not what yo expect we all learn something right? I see this as progress no matter what as I am sure others do as well.

What might be, and I stress "might", required is a review of how you are releasing the info and your test results. I am not criticizing how you are doing anything but making suggestions. Perhaps take a week to finish some of your work and gather your thoughts and data and then present that to the community. I understand you want to share but I believe some project management is needed to reduce your stress and make more progress.

If others want to contribute that is great and should be encouraged but it needs to be explained that your time is valuable too and you have to focus on your work as well. Please do not get caught up in the noise here on the forum and let it discourage you.

Please consider;

1. weekly updates, set a release schedule and try to adhere to it
2. set a day and/or time to be on the forum to answer questions for those who are replicating and to support discussion of ways to improve or further
3. providing schematics and videos (when possible) to assist those who are trying to support your efforts
4. ignoring the noise and negative comments when possible, there will be those that will try and derail you due to various reasons.

Again these are suggestions Tony and please accept them as such. I am not trying to tell you what to do but provide some support.

Thanks for your efforts thus far,

Carl

I actually agree with this. It's best to first compile a complete instruction set or presentation with all the needed documents before starting to discuss what everyone did wrong in their quick replications. You could then just inform the forum about your progress of this. After that is all done we can start discussing theory, replications, improvements and so on.

Btw if you need any 3d animation work give me a headsup, I can help.

[Bruce_TPU]

1. I am too busy to argue.
2. I can't remember deadline.
3. I am not releasing demos of overheating devices, I am not SM.
4. I am not your employee, so please wait for your turn.
5. No current measurement until the 3 or 4 channels is not wound and driven. Reason --> there is no point. (you didn't understand the concept)
6. Again --> that is O.N.E. spike. Multiple spikes will be shorter.
7. That is what I am doing now.

Wow, not the reply I was hoping for...or deserved.  LOL

1.  Great, because there is nothing to argue about.  You claim OU and I simply asked for the output amps.  A reasonable request.  But now no current reading until your new 3 channel coil is done... hmm, ok. 

2.  No deadline.  Just thought a circuit would be helpful because some have tried this and seen nothing.  So perhaps they are not pulsing correctly.

3.  You stated yesterday that you were going to make a vid and post a circuit.  Then said you were tired but would post it today.  No prob.  We are just anxious to see what you have.

Lastly I apologize that asking my questions equated to "being my employee," in your thinking.  The questions are not meant in that tone, simply meant to clarify things. 

Relax Tony, and take a deep breath, it is all good!     It is a New Year, and we hope, a GREAT year!!  My motto is what Reagan told Gorbachev, "trust but verify."

Kind regards,

Bruce