Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump

[broli]

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[agentgates]

Alex, I've got BC337-16 and BC337-40. Are you sure in the 100mA? They don't switch in my configuration. 

Input is 3.5 on the base. (I know you calculated that for the 4017)

Anyway, ignore it. Just mentioned, I'll fix it tomorrow. Take your time with your coil and many thanks for your kind help.

I have another short nap, back in a few hours after rebooting my head.

[wattsup]

There may be an issue with the thickness of the material used as the primary support. Also changing to the 45 degree angle may also have an adverse effect. All of these changes from the original build that was used to advise @stefan of the initial results and the reason for this thread are slowly being shoved to the wayside. Be careful to not lose this first build PLEASE.

I suggest that the first build that was used to provide performance results be kept intact and this is the one to follow.

For the purposes of this discussion, I will use the terms;

PWO = Primary wind that is on the outside of the core material.
PWI = Primary wind that is on the inside of the core material.

The outer secondary is like a stator coil. The primary is like a rotor.
As the impulse goes up the PWO, this is the closest side to the secondary, but since the core is non-magnetic, it is totally transparent so as the pulse then enters the PWI, it still has an effect on the secondary but at a lower level. This up PWO, down PWI of the pulse creates a stronger and weaker force over the secondary and would be a very desirable effect to preserve. But the more the core material is thick, the weaker the PWI will be to the point that it can do no effect to the secondary and you will loose the PWO/PWI interplay. So thickness of the core should be as thin as possible.

Now the 45 degree thingy. This also may play for or against. I do not think @agentgates had enough time to really ponder this question before jumping onto the 45 degree bandwagon, so again we have to be very careful here and not try to dilute the initial effect which is the initial or original reason @agentgates contacted @stefan.

Now also doing multi-wrap primaries is again an offshoot of the original method and I again suggest to stick to the original.

Here is the problem going on. @agentgates has an original build that he contacted @stefan about to explain the great or out of the ordinary results. But from that point on we are now on this whole shebang changing so many aspects of the original that we do not know where the hell we are anymore and this is dangerous.

I suggest everyone stop what they are doing and go back to page 1. When you find an effect that is note worthy, chances are any derivation of a few degrees to the left or right of that one specific build and the effect is dead. This is where this is going in my book if yo do not go back to the beginning NOW.

Sorry for being such a party pooper but we have seen this happen to many times. The original must be preserved and looked at very carefully, respectfully, and not just jump forward saying do now 45 degrees, try now multi primaries or any other change.

I think 45 degrees is too much. Think of the initial pulse, goes up the PWI at 45 degrees and imparts to the secondary, but then the PWI goes to the next 45 degrees that contacts secondaries that are way ahead of where the first PWO was and this could be canceling.

By using a smaller angle, the PWO/PWI physical positions following through the impulse would be more natural to actual physical motion of a rotor/stator relation. More angle may kill the effect.

Anyways, it's just a learning process.

[gadgetmall]

Does width of the tube matter  ? How about a toilet  paper roll . everyone has one of those  . . Have to find a piece of PVC  the correct Dimensions  from the hardware store tomorrow but i am going to try this with my pulse generator . Its capable of 1 mh all the way to 1.2 megcycles  and it has adjustable pulse width . It will hit 500mzh no problem and actually puts out up to 30 volts signal neg or pos  inverted or whatever . Just put a new tube in it . It was an auction from the magnetitics research lab from dupont .got it for 5 bucks  they had galvanometers and all sorts of goodies
Gadget

[ketone]

@gadgetmall
                 it looks like your inner primary winding is going the same way as the outer winding...when it should be the other way...you need to wind it like a triangle pattern upright,upside down,upright upside down etc...WWWWWWW....although...i wonder if