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Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump

Started by agentgates, January 05, 2010, 09:28:18 AM

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teslaalset

Quote from: agentgates on January 12, 2010, 05:20:26 PM
@teslaalset
Yes, you are doing well. So not to afraid of, what you see is normal and more than perfect if you don't see oscillation and negative pulses after your pulse. If you are at that stage then you are doing very well.

BTW frequency, yes the pulse length will NOT change if you increase the input clock. That is perfect. Now you need to turn on the 2 other coils to get even more pulses and get them closer to each other.

Thanks for the encouragements.
I am still suffering from 'old school' syndromes  ;)
Basic thoughts are still that if you load a primary coil with steady current and switch the current off real quick the electrons still keep flowing and build up a large voltage spike. I think that is what I see happening still.
Because of the very steep spike, it has very high frequency spectrum that is very easily transferred to a secondary winding.
Just my thoughts.

What are the dimensions of your new coil by the way?

Magluvin

Dont get me wrong keys, heck as far as wee know, that will be the way we do it in the end.. lol
I wonder if this effect can be implied upon the primary itself by crossing its own path at different angles. But we just got to get to know the effect in order to make those decisions properly.
I hear the concept, I see examples of coils that should work,etc. ,  but I dont KNOW anything for sure.
He has laid it out finally that we will always be a step back.  I would love to take the time and bang out some twizzlers. But without the secret recipe, its not going to taste the same, and for some here not the same at all. =[

Dont take this badly....
And Im sure Stefans meaning of opening the thread wasnt so we should be led down this road. I hear ya tony about that part of your deal. But man, what are we not atune to? Are you sliding the secondary down the primary to get a good spot. What?  Throw us some bones here. So far testers are not seeing dc. Do you have times that you dont get dc on the sec. ? And what does it take to correct that.  You seem to be confident at producing it. They should not have been encouraged well knowing they will fail. Why doesnt Stefans coil work? Actually why was it known not to work and sent?  "Ask bold questions"  And these questions are fair according to what is presented.  If keys got his up and running you would still be the man, and up until now, it would be keys working model that would make you the man.
If we were all going at this time, then this thread would really rock! We would be discussing serious theory and new ways of making it better. But we sit with our broken, tasteless twizzlers.

You might think the pressure is all on you. Some stay home from work for this stuff. Because it is important.

Magluvin 0 7 

agentgates

Quote from: -[marco]- on January 12, 2010, 05:26:32 PM
No see i actually have success as there are more and more people that are starting to question this entire TPU thing and i hope i can convince them that this device is going nowhere!, so they can use their time and money on things that deserve it!! :)

It is very generous from you spending so much time from your life on others "benefit". BTW, are you writing from an oil rig? 8)

Mannix

The thing that is important is that I was not able to see this this effect clearly untill i switched ranges on my cro.

That is still the case and different istruments display this differently.

This experience surely is important for every body and I dont have the answer

I thought" no go" for a while as well but knew that Tony was surely getting something.

@ Tony do you have any thing to add on this ?..like try and older cro.
The folks here may be suffering the same as I was just to see the effect.






I would suggest that everybody try this.

Follow Tony,s advice over and over

If you are sure everything is correct, including the nature walk.


use a single turn of thin copper pipe, or thick wire. Hold it   above the unit with cro leads connected  to just below trigger level, in one shot if you like but it makes no difference.

now lower the ring over the running unit and see if it triggers..ok nothing? turn the ring over !


I needed 22 volts to see the effect but 30 was better


I hope that this at least will show you that there is something that the cro is picking up but possibly not displaying as we would expect.


@ marco, and others of doubt

Just wind one of these , one more ..it will be so easy for you ,it does not take very long.

It does not cost much. and so what if you dont get any results. have a go



remember marko rodin?
We need your help here . Whatever ......it is at least very, very  interesting.

@all
please work hard to get to see this effect IT IS THERE !

Tony ,Thanks again. It is a fine thing you are showing and I admire the way you are handling it.

Lindsay

agentgates

Quote from: teslaalset on January 12, 2010, 05:29:34 PMWhat are the dimensions of your new coil by the way?

Only the diameter bigger 127mm to make larger gaps on Stefan's device as it is from acrylic and perhaps he wants to take it to presentaions or other things and show people there are coils and no flat batteries around... :D

BTW the secondary is also different but ignore it, you have nothing to do with that yet. I use 3 secondary. 2x200V for inverter and another one for ~30V to comply his request on self-driving.