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Solid State Orbo System

Started by Groundloop, January 06, 2010, 12:21:24 PM

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Staffman

#270
February 17, 2010, 07:50:44 PM
Quote from: Bruce_TPU on February 17, 2010, 07:27:17 PM
Hello ALL,

Steven Mark once said that "there are some interesting characteristics of toroids, learn them. "  Boy he sure wasn't kidding...

Please check out the latest from JLN Labs:

http://jnaudin.free.fr/2SGen/indexen.htm#moving

I am curious about this one, indeed...  :o

Cheers,

Bruce
http://energryfreedomreport.com

I just tried that. When I use this huge 3" ring neo, the toroid would pull too much current. Another thing that I noticed was if I moved the magnet position around the toroid, I could get different output voltages. What I found for my setup is that placing the magnet on one of the sides(instead of top or bottom) of the toroid would get better output. What I thought was weird was changing the polarity of the magnet would also change the output. I tried placing a cap (2000uF) in parallel with the toroid but when I did I had to change the duty cycle(70%) and frequency (15 kHz) on the circuit to get the LED's to light up. I tried to get a small 3v motor to run, but just not enough current yet. This is fun!!! 

Edit: I think I was reading the scope wrong on my previous post. The scope is showing 4.36V peak to peak (i think that's what that is). I'm a newbie when it comes to scopes. When I put a 2000uF cap on the output, the voltage rises to 5+ volts possibly more if I leave it there for a bit. Only enough current to run a little 3V motor for a fraction of a sec. One thing I can't figure out is when I try to measure the current on the LED's (with 1uF cap) the LED's turn off. Strange.

Bruce_TPU

#271
February 17, 2010, 08:49:27 PM
Hello Staffman,

I wonder what would happen if you wound a small air core toroid and did the same experiment.  There would be no worry of hystersis because it is an air core.  Might be fun..  We would love to see a pic also, pls... or vid.

Evening ALL,

Okay, tonight I have poured just one bar to see if this works.  I did not change the ingredients, just the order in which they were mixed.  I think it will make all the differance, or hope so.

I should know in about two hours...again.  LOL 

I used 126 g. of Iron Oxide and 6 g. of nanoparticles.  My Nanoparticles have a surface area exceeding 5000 square feet per gram.  So six grams give me 30,000 square feet of surface area.  This is bound to have some impact on the flux handling ability of my bar according to my research...hehehe.  We will see.  I gotta get it into a bar though...first..LOL

If this bar gets hard, I will then make a youtube video on the next round.

Cheers,

Bruce
http:/EnergyFreedomReport.com
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

Staffman

#272
February 17, 2010, 11:21:56 PM
Here are some pics of my 2SGen Replication attempt. I'm using the Ainsley circuit. I do have the PCB that GroundLoop built, but I have not had the time to solder everything together... I've got to get one of those big magnifying glasses first. I'm using an IRF630B for the Fet. I've also left out the Pots controlling the Fet to increase the current.

If I change the polarity of the magnet, the LED's dim. If I move the magnet to the other side of the toroid, the LED's are dimmer. (Maybe due to uneven wraps? No clue about the polarity issue.) I tried to get a pic of the dimmer LED's, but it didn't come out well - so I left it out.

The first picture shows my setup. The big thing is one of those Radioshack electronics kits from Forest Mims III. I like the little springs on the board, it helps with wiring things up. The circuit used is just the Ainsley circuit with the changes as described above.

The second pic shows the 2SGen. The toroid is 28.3 mH (Mag-Inc PN# ZP42507-TC) wound with 22 AWG wire (I really should count the wrappings). The pickup coil is 14.7 mH bifilar wound with approx 400 feet total of 30 AWG wire.

The third pic shows the scope shot of the input into the toroid from the output of the Ainsley circuit... yes I need to change the batteries... I've been having fun.

Fourth pic shows the input frequency.

Fifth pic shows the input duty cycle.

Sixth pic shows the scope shot of the output (loaded).

Seventh pic shows the 10 simple red LED's (low power type) being lit.

Eighth pic shows the scope shot of the output (loaded) where I reverse the polarity on the magnet. The LED's are noticeably dimmer, but I could not get a good pic.

There we go. I did try another pickup coil, but no luck. I haven't measured the specs for that crappy coil, but if anyone wants to know I can measure it for you. I think if I had a bigger coil, the output would be much higher.

Bruce_TPU

#273
February 17, 2010, 11:28:35 PM
Hello All,

I think that this bar tonight will work..!  It is not completely hard...yet, but headed in the right direction.  Tomorrow, I will take it out of it's mold (and yes I did use the vaseline) and sand it down nice and pretty!

I will show a pic when the first bar is done, and then time to make some more....  ;)

Cheers,

Bruce
http://www.energyfreedomreport.com

1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

synchro1

#274
February 18, 2010, 12:05:26 PM
@Bruce,

           I built a cold molded sailboat with West Ways linear polyurethane and have some experience with the kind of epoxy and hardener your using: I can tell you the mixture determines the rate it kicks. If you mix a small portion with no extra ingredients included according to the recommended proportions, you will notice a thermal reaction followed by sudden hardening in around ten minutes. Mixed correctly, it heats up and kicks fast and hard! If it takes too long to kick, it never really gets hard. This is usually a result of not including enough hardener.
You need to buy extra hardener and mix more of it but not too much, or it will kick on you as you pour. The timing is real tricky to get the extra amount of hardener mixed and then add the extra ingredients. The extra hardener speeds the reaction up and the inclusion of extra ingredients slows it down. Also, if you add additional hardener, try not to stir the ingredients to rapidly, or you will over excite and prematurely trigger the reaction. Nice and steady. Optimally, it should kick fast and reach close to maximum hardness in under fifteen minutes, then entire hardness after a few hours. 
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