Solid State Orbo System

[wings]

Thanks.  I didn't pay attention to the resistors in the input circuit.  Guess that is why I asked if someone could help!

So, if this is the correct way to calculate, you have an input power of 0.0014 watts to the toroid during the magnetization portion of each cycle.  Yet the output coil is showing 0.009 watts during this same portion?  And then that is released as 0.1245 watts in the output coil during the demagnetization portion of the cycle, right?

I understand that there is a theory about the gain between magnetization and demagnetization in the output coil.  But any explanation for the difference between 0.0014 input from the supply circuit and the 0.009 watts reading on the output coil during magnetization?  Shouldn't those two be the same, minus heat losses?

maybe I'm blind but I see
input 0.0014W
output 0.1336 W

you have to remove both the magnetization and demagnetization resistance and recover the energy ...... with two Joule Thief or two inverter on the two capacitors or close the loop directly or....?

[Omega_0]

That 10k in input is probably a copy-paste mistake. It won't even work with 10k there. See this earlier diagram, which shows a correct value of 1 ohm.

So the real input must be: (4*4*0.85)/(1+1.1)  = 6W

[Groundloop]

One way to test for over unity is by making an oscillator on the input toroid.
By doing that the circuit will find the resonant frequency by it self. The output
coil must be made to match the load impedance. So some experimentation is needed.

This drawing is showing a standard JT circuit but this can be changed by using other
components e.g. power transistor and different windings on the toroid etc.
If the input battery (one AA rechargeable NiMeH) charge then there is free energy,
if not, well, back to the drawing board.

Just an idea.........

Groundloop.

[lumen]

One way to test for over unity is by making an oscillator on the input toroid.
By doing that the circuit will find the resonant frequency by it self. The output
coil must be made to match the load impedance. So some experimentation is needed.

This drawing is showing a standard JT circuit but this can be changed by using other
components e.g. power transistor and different windings on the toroid etc.
If the input battery (one AA rechargeable NiMeH) charge then there is free energy,
if not, well, back to the drawing board.

Just an idea.........

Groundloop.

@Groundloop,

That's what I was saying! There should be NO impedance if the toroidal field is maintained totally within the core.

Just wind the coil, add the magnets and match a good capacitor to create a resonate circuit.

Apply the correct frequency and THEN place it into the output coil. If the toroidal coils field is truly maintained within the core, the frequency should never change because there is no coupling of the windings.

If this is true, then you could continue to match the output winding to twice the input frequency, and everything would operate as expected.

[Bruce_TPU]

Good evening ALL,

An interesting night, indeed.  I have spent the evening cleaning up my connections of all six of my output coil, and then also, increased the resistor value to 33O ohms, but with coils in parallel, it ohmed out at 43.1

Now, check out this strange fact:   

NEW OUTPUT:
5.7          V
43.1        R
0.13225   I
0.75382   P

Did simply fixing all of the loose output leads make that much of a differance to where the power output is now over double? (Edit: Nearly tripled!)

Is something wrong in the resistance measurments, somehow?

Is my strange creation liking the higher resistance and is having an accumulative affect on one another?  (I'd like to think this is the answer!)

I plan on increasing the Resistance and seeing if it changes the power output any more....  I will let you all know!

Cheers,

Bruce

EDIT:  Found that Alligator clip was off of top coil!  Now attached...Now even better!! hehehe  (mad scientist laugh! )

NEW POWER FACTOR:
5.7        V
36.8       R
0.15489  I
0.88287  Power