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Solid State Orbo System

Started by Groundloop, January 06, 2010, 12:21:24 PM

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Bruce_TPU

Okay electronic gurus...please tell me why when I put a resistor that Ohms out at 807 ohms, IN Parallel, as my load, and check the resistance, it reads 39.6 Ohms.

Each of my 6 brooks output coils ohm out at about 254 ohms individually and ALL 6 are wired in parallel for the output.  No diodes, no caps.

If I could have some help here, to make sure that I am calculating the power factor correctly.  Thank you.

EDIT:
I tried several other resistors and could not get a resistance above 41 ohms.  All the resistors I tried resulted in about the same or a little less power.

That is it for tonight.  I have glued up some plastic pieces that I will be winding as a "center solonoid bias" to drop into the center hole.  Between it and the outer bias already in place, it should assist in strengthening the b field...we will see. ;)

Cheers,

Bruce

EDIT 2:
P.S.  Output Frequency is 48 Hz, give or take, about what the rotor is switching.  Duty cycle is 60% now.
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

wings

Quote from: Bruce_TPU on March 03, 2010, 11:18:00 PM
Okay electronic gurus...please tell me why when I put a resistor that Ohms out at 807 ohms, IN Parallel, as my load, and check the resistance, it reads 39.6 Ohms.

Each of my 6 brooks output coils ohm out at about 254 ohms individually and ALL 6 are wired in parallel for the output.  No diodes, no caps.

If I could have some help here, to make sure that I am calculating the power factor correctly.  Thank you.

EDIT:
I tried several other resistors and could not get a resistance above 41 ohms.  All the resistors I tried resulted in about the same or a little less power.

That is it for tonight.  I have glued up some plastic pieces that I will be winding as a "center solonoid bias" to drop into the center hole.  Between it and the outer bias already in place, it should assist in strengthening the b field...we will see. ;)

Cheers,

Bruce

EDIT 2:
P.S.  Output Frequency is 48 Hz, give or take, about what the rotor is switching.  Duty cycle is 60% now.
the following formula give me 40 ohm close to your measurement.

Bruce_TPU

Quote from: wings on March 04, 2010, 01:38:27 AM
the following formula give me 40 ohm close to your measurement.

Awesome Wings!  Thank you very much.  I have got to make sure that I was not screwin' up the power calculation somehow.  I am just astounded that I am nearly at 1 Watt of power output by tweaking, and have still not yet added high speed switching.  That will be the last thing that I add.  I still have a few more experiments to try and still boost output and then there are a few things I am going to try, to try to reduce input power, while not affecting the output.

Thank you again,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

wings

Quote from: Omega_0 on March 03, 2010, 03:33:25 PM
That 10k in input is probably a copy-paste mistake. It won't even work with 10k there. See this earlier diagram, which shows a correct value of 1 ohm.

So the real input must be: (4*4*0.85)/(1+1.1)  = 6W


Naudin have updated the circuit changing the resistance in series with the toroid from 10 kom down to 220 ohm.

the new calculation give output / input ratio down from 98 to 2.2 anyway more than 1.


Bruce_TPU

Evening All,

This evening, I have added a "center" pick up coil.  I plan on setting this up as a resonant tank.

It ohmed out at 1 ohm.

It's stand alone power:
.138       V
.9          R
0.25333  I
0.02116  P

Tomorrow I am going to wind my new toroid, and see if I can put the Steorn magnet motor in series with my 1 Watt SSG3.  This will do several things for me, not the least, speeding up my switching, greatly.  ;)

I ordered many electronic part this evening.  I have three circuit to build to start with, and making my inner coil a resonant tank.

Circuit 1 is JLN Labs output circuit, this should give me more available power on my output.

Circuit 2 is a new switching circuit, that will run off of a rechargable D-cell Battery to power my SSG3 and Steorn Magnet Motor.

Circuit 3 is a Radiant Energy battery recharger, to recharge the battery, as well.

Lastly, If I see an increase in power on the output at the higher switching and I see I can get everything working on ONE D cell, then it is time to invest in six more brooks coils and to build another module.  I will have 1 more toroid not doing anything.  1 for Steorn, 2 for SSG3 Module 1, and 1 for SSG3 Module 2.  This is my plan....  :)

Night,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.