Solid State Orbo System

[gotoluc]

Hi ,

I  you're up already .. here it is 25min. after midnight.

The toroid is about 10cm diameter and 5 cm high (wounded) I'm quite sure the cores are the silicon steel like you say.

So if you think these toroid would work then that means your device effect has nothing to do with the Ferrite core induction reduction when a magnet is close or on the core. Is this correct?

If so, then why are you using a ferrite and for that matter a toroid? would it not work with a regular wound coil? I'm trying to understand why this time you're getting some positive results   what's making the difference?

Luc

[Groundloop]

@Oc,

I tried you link but got the following message:

"
Some problems were encountered
The requested discussion could not be found.
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I have seen all the videos from TK. He is doing a good job researching the motor. Sometimes I
can detect surprises in his voice also. :-) Wouldn't be surprised if he finds some anomalies in
the motor.

Thanks for taking time to contribute to this thread.

Alex.

[0c]

@Oc,

I tried you link but got the following message:

"
Some problems were encountered
The requested discussion could not be found.
"

I have seen all the videos from TK. He is doing a good job researching the motor. Sometimes I
can detect surprises in his A also. :-) Wouldn't be surprised if he finds some anomalies in
the motor.

Thanks for taking time to contribute to this thread.

Alex.

Some of the forum categories over there require membership to access. Here's the text of the post of mine that was linked. It is a list of factors that affect performance and efficiency. However, I think there's a lot of other good information in that and other threads. That is where Alsetalokin hangs out.

"Output Rotor energy is related to:

1) Strength of magnets
2) Size of pole surface
3) Length of magnets
4) Permeability of core materials
5) Bulk of core materials (more is better)
6) Completeness of core saturation
7) Timing of saturation pulse
Duration of saturation pulse
9) Time it takes to saturate
10) Angle of coil face WRT passing magnet

Input coil efficiency is related to:

a) Permeability of core
b) Ease of saturating core materials
c) Bulk of core
d) Remanence or bias of core materials
e) Number of turns
f) Wire diameter/resistance vs. input voltage/current
g) Recovery of electrical losses (ringing and spikes)
h) Pulse waveform
i) Timing and duty cycle
j) Induction changes from passing magnets

Have I forgotten anything?"

[Groundloop]

Luc,

I think the effect has to do with magnetic shielding. So any toroid should work. I'm using
a Iron powder toroid on one of my motors and the motor spins. The reason I used Ferrite
was that was what I had at hand. I'm reasonable sure it will work with laminated soft steel also.
I have tried this before in my MEG using regular coils and it did not work. It did not produce
the high voltage in my generator coils. I was using Metglass core in the (Tom Bearden) MEG
that I did build but could not find any great output after a lot of testing. The toroid system is
different because of the magnetic shielding effect. You get an modulating magnetic field going
in the center core. This will generate a lot of voltage in the generator coil. But it is early in
the research. We need to test much more to see if we can get an ou effect.

I have ordered more enameled copper wire and some new Ferrite U cores, I beams and some toroids.
Will be building the double system posted earlier in this thread when the new parts arrive.
I must add that I have not yet tried any resonance tests on this new system. But if you decide
to build this then I bet you are better to test for resonance than me because you have worked
on this for a long time now. I'm just a novice when it comes to resonance circuits.

Alex.

[Groundloop]

Oc,

Thanks for the added information about the Orbo motor system.

In this thread we are trying to make a solid state version. So some of your points will not apply.
But good information anyway. One factor for the solid state will be the frequency. Higher frequency
will give out more power. This is compatible to RPM in a rotor, I guess. One other factor in a solid
state system is resonance in the input toroid cores. This will lower the input usage to almost
nothing while at the same time switch the magnetic field on and off in the generator coil.

So there is a lot to research.

Alex.