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Solid State Orbo System

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Bruce_TPU

#335
February 26, 2010, 01:16:36 AM
Hello ALL,

I was able to light up brightly 5 LED's, by adding a 4th coil on top, that I finally figured out how to get it producing, it had two, and a 5th coil by it'self with another small toroid.  I made a lot of changes in the last hour and discovered something new that appears to allow me to add magnets (finally!) and increase the power output, while dropping the amps into the toroid(s).  By adding two more in series and steel and magnets in the coil, I dropped the amps going to the toroids by 1/3". 

The steel and magnets have me very curious.  I wonder if thinner steel like sheet metal would work better?  magnet placement and toroid placement is critical.  Even the steel, leaning the wrong way, dim LED's, correct it and they are bright again.

Now I think through all of this and formulate a new plan for tomorrow's experiments.

Cheers,

Bruce
http://www.energyfreedomreport.com
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

Magluvin

#336
February 26, 2010, 01:40:56 AM
Hey bruce
I see in the picture above, it looks like you are lighting the led that is still in the plastic package bag. =]

Also I hear you talking about a rotor but I never see it, nor what it is for with this idea.

As for the toroids in series, I think that maybe it would cause a loose link in the magnetic loop chain. Too many wire winding gaps between them.

Try this, use a diode to capture the bemf from the Tcoil and compare that to your output from the pickup coils. It should be much greater. Being that the bemf of the Tcoil is just being wasted, add it to your output and you will be stepping up to lighting 12v light bulbs instead.  Without the bemf, yes you are just looking to find a way to increase that end of the output. But on each try, just add the bemf also at some point to see what is there combined. It is not cheating, it is making efficient use of the input power as a whole.

mags

Bruce_TPU

#337
February 26, 2010, 08:09:55 AM
Quote from: Magluvin on February 26, 2010, 01:40:56 AM
Hey bruce
I see in the picture above, it looks like you are lighting the led that is still in the plastic package bag. =]

Also I hear you talking about a rotor but I never see it, nor what it is for with this idea.

As for the toroids in series, I think that maybe it would cause a loose link in the magnetic loop chain. Too many wire winding gaps between them.

Try this, use a diode to capture the bemf from the Tcoil and compare that to your output from the pickup coils. It should be much greater. Being that the bemf of the Tcoil is just being wasted, add it to your output and you will be stepping up to lighting 12v light bulbs instead.  Without the bemf, yes you are just looking to find a way to increase that end of the output. But on each try, just add the bemf also at some point to see what is there combined. It is not cheating, it is making efficient use of the input power as a whole.

mags

Hi Mags,

My circuit given to me by Alex, has BEMF capture.  You see, the way I think is, I know that is available.  Like I know that adding more coils is available.  Now I know adding toroids is available.  I know how to place the magnets and steel to make more power available.  I am looking for things that I don't know is available to boost power, and then will put it all together.   ;)

Picture below is my set up.  Rotor is on left, I spun it before taking the pic.  I only have two LEDS hooked up for the pic, I am tearing down, getting ready for tonights experiments.

Cheers,

Bruce
http://www.energyfreedomreport.com
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

Bruce_TPU

#338
February 27, 2010, 01:23:55 AM
Good Evening ALL,

I feel I have been very successful this evening! Steel, Magnet, Steel, Magnet, Steel, Magnet, Steel.

I have two toroids wired in series, and a magnetic steel configuration above it.  ALL magnets are NORTH pole facing up.  Cuts your output by 3/4 otherwise.  contraption is on the TOP of the toroid.  The toroid is Vertical, hole facing out, with a magnet inside.  So much more to try with the magnets, they make such a huge difference when used in conjunction with steel, magnet, steel, magnet.

I still want to try some toroidal windings over the pickup coils, and also try a few more things.  I was going to wrap my new toroid, but I keep making progress and have to force myself to stop, take notes and sleep... LOL  I need more magnets.. ;D

Cheers,

Bruce
http://www.energyfreedomreport.com
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

Magluvin

#339
February 27, 2010, 02:06:50 AM
Hey Bruce
Great minds think alike. I tried to wrap a few coils (no ferrite core)with toroid windings yesterday. I did it thinking that it would distort the fields of the magnets within the pickup coil itself. It has very little effect. Strange isnt it?
I thought with great confidence that it would do something good. I thought that the oil inside the toroidal winding would see a greater distortion than with the ferrite.  Give it a try if you like. I tried many combination's of magnet influence on them. Very disappointing.
Back to the drawing board, in my mind. =]

mags
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