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Solid State Orbo System

Started by Groundloop, January 06, 2010, 12:21:24 PM

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Bruce_TPU

#425
March 07, 2010, 12:51:50 AM
Well, I thought I was done...lol

Remember my center "bias" solonoid output coil?  It has been by it's self, it did not like being connected to either the output or in series with the toroids and brooks bias.  So I left it alone and figured it would be another output coil.  I had been told (another secret project some time ago) that a seperate power source was needed for this bias.  I should have listened.  This center coil now has enough power to really act as a bias.

I had felt the diode I had on it getting hot.  I had tried to light an LED on it some time ago, but that was at 4 volt output on the main coils and that hated resistor.

Now, It is lighting two LED's and has .847 P on it.  This has now influenced by total unit, drastically.  (simply adding two LED's to the center bias coil.  :o)

Wait until I make it a resonant tank!  hehehe

NEW OUTPUT POWER NUMBERS:  (not including central bias coil!)
V  28.5
R  49.6      ???   Can Ohms Law be tricked? 
I  .5746
P  16.37619    

Frequency:  Same    Duty Cycle:  Same
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

supersam

#426
March 07, 2010, 01:23:43 AM
@bruce

you mentioned ac output, are you putting in dc?  if you are reading dc input and ac output, there is a formula, to rectify.  it is not the same thing.  i'm sure you know this keep up the great work!

lol
sam

aaron5120

#427
March 07, 2010, 08:09:12 AM
Quote from: Bruce_TPU on March 07, 2010, 12:51:50 AM
Well, I thought I was done...lol

Remember my center "bias" solonoid output coil?  It has been by it's self, it did not like being connected to either the output or in series with the toroids and brooks bias.  So I left it alone and figured it would be another output coil.  I had been told (another secret project some time ago) that a seperate power source was needed for this bias.  I should have listened.  This center coil now has enough power to really act as a bias.

I had felt the diode I had on it getting hot.  I had tried to light an LED on it some time ago, but that was at 4 volt output on the main coils and that hated resistor.

Now, It is lighting two LED's and has .847 P on it.  This has now influenced by total unit, drastically.  (simply adding two LED's to the center bias coil.  :o)

Wait until I make it a resonant tank!  hehehe

NEW OUTPUT POWER NUMBERS:  (not including central bias coil!)
V  28.5
R  49.6      ???   Can Ohms Law be tricked? 
I  .5746
P  16.37619    

Frequency:  Same    Duty Cycle:  Same
Bruce,
Congratulations on your achievements at this stage of your experiments. We are excited to see the advancements so far. Nevertheless, I found a little bit difficult to follow all the modifications you have done to your original SS Orbo, and would like to ask if it is not so troublesome for you, to re-state the whole set-up, specifying the inductance and resistence of each type of coil, and the configurations of the magnets and laminations and connections between the different coils? I had a difficult time to visualize the most updated setup.
Thank you in advance, and please keep up your excellent work, Bruce.

Bruce_TPU

#428
March 07, 2010, 09:33:45 AM
Quote from: aaron5120 on March 07, 2010, 08:09:12 AM
Bruce,
Congratulations on your achievements at this stage of your experiments. We are excited to see the advancements so far. Nevertheless, I found a little bit difficult to follow all the modifications you have done to your original SS Orbo, and would like to ask if it is not so troublesome for you, to re-state the whole set-up, specifying the inductance and resistence of each type of coil, and the configurations of the magnets and laminations and connections between the different coils? I had a difficult time to visualize the most updated setup.
Thank you in advance, and please keep up your excellent work, Bruce.


Good morning! 

Each Brooks Coil Ohms out at 254 ohms.  There are six of them.  Each brooks is wrapped with a 1 ohm bias winding.

The bias winding for the brooks are wired in series with the toroids, which is connected to my circuit.  I have no electronic switching as of yet, so I am using the rotor of my mag moto to open/close a reed switch.

There is a center solenoid bias winding that has been slipped into the holes of the top five brooks.  There are two small magnets in attraction there at the bottom.  This solenoid bias winding is 1 ohm.  It is wrapped with 20awg wire. 

Since the solenoid bias is hollow, inside of it is a core made up of soft iron wire .  This is taped on the top an on the bottom to hold laminations together.  Looks ugly but seems to work.

Only the top toroid has a magnet in it.  Why?  Because this is what works for this set up.

I work about 5 hours on avg. an evening on my SSG3 since I have started and about double that on weekends.  So what seems fast to you all reading, is not so fast experimenting.  LOL 

I can say without a doubt that the magnets affect the output.  But so does also, tuning each coil in the sense to make sure it's magnetic field is adding to the output and not diminishing.  The same is true with how each bias on each brooks is wired, and also true with the coil orientation of the center solenoid bias.  Not hard to do, but very, very tedious. 

The brooks coils are manufactured to my specs from another project.  We had to pay for tooling etc.  Which we still own.

Attached is a drawing that I posted earlier, but I have added more labels.  I have photo's postd of each step and with the drawing, should assist you in understanding.

I still think there is an issue with resistance measurement because everything is in parallel.  I am not sure how reliable it is for measuring current usng ohms law and would like to hear from a knowledgable electronic guru...

Cheers,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

exnihiloest

#429
March 07, 2010, 10:14:37 AM
Quote from: gravityblock on March 06, 2010, 06:13:11 PM
...
So, all the B-field energy is still in the confinement zone
...

All experiments that I conducted prove it is false.
An hour ago, I was pulsing a toroid coil with pulses at low frequency around 100hz, strong enough to saturate the core. I held a magnet near the coil and it vibrated in my hand under the effect of the leakage fields from the toroid!

Imagine a half toroidal ferrite core with a coil. It is like a horseshoe magnet: the field lines loop from one end to the other but they don't follow a circular path, they expand around  (see: http://www.vizimag.com/horseshoe-246p-256c-b.gif).
Now imagine there is another half toroidal air coil facing the first one, connected in series and looping the toroid. Do you really think that the second half coil will significantly change the flux from the first one, when it has a very low magnetic permeability because of no core? Certainly not, the flux from the first half core will remain almost the same.
It is what is going on in Orbo and 2Sgen: the saturation causes gaps in permeability along the toroid, then flux leakages that can be recovered by coupling another coil (2Sgen) or that can be used to influence near magnet motion (Orbo).
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