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Solid State Orbo System

Started by Groundloop, January 06, 2010, 12:21:24 PM

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lumen

Quote from: void109 on March 12, 2010, 04:42:35 PM
While I endure the epic wait for my core to cross the pond and get to my doorstep, I'll get my circuit ready for its arrival.

I'm thinking of setting up a parallel resonant circuit to drive the coil - wouldn't that pretty much nullify most of the power requirements for pulsing the core?

Parallel resonant tank circuit. That is what I was going to try as soon as I finished my current CNC lathe project.

Wind the coil with two passes of heavy gauge wire, one pass advancing around the core clockwise and the second layer advancing counter clockwise, with the same number of turns in each pass. This should eliminate any projected flux in the parallel plane.

Then, check the inductance with the magnets in place, and calculate the required capacitor for a good frequency somewhere in the range of your frequency generator.

Connect the frequency generator coupled with a small value signal feed capacitor, and tune it on the scope watching for the expanding peaks as it becomes resonate.

Once resonate, lower it into a section of copper pipe and see if the externally shorted flux has any influence on the resonate frequency and how far it would need to be re-tuned to again become resonate. Check the new resonate frequency and compare it to the original.

Rotate the coil within the copper tube and find the position of greatest change and least change to evaluate the overall emission field direction and relationship to the input power.

In a resonate state, you should not need to recover any of the coils EMF, since it is already used to enforce the resonate state.

Well, at least that's the way I would do it. It's all for fun!




gotoluc

Hi Groundloop :)

I started a topic for the self running coil I was telling you about.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8892

Luc

exnihiloest

Quote from: wings on March 12, 2010, 04:35:23 AM
also without external flux vector potential is not zero  ...  ???
http://jnaudin.free.fr/vpexp/index.htm

http://www.iop.org/EJ/abstract/0143-0807/2/3/008

There is a vector potential around a toroid. The Aharonovâ€"Bohm effect is a very weak effect that is related to it.
Nevertheless it doesn't cause any force on an permanent magnet!
Or please give us references about macroscopic effects of the vector potential without B/E fields.




gravityblock

Quote from: exnihiloest on March 13, 2010, 06:54:46 AM
There is a vector potential around a toroid. The Aharonovâ€"Bohm effect is a very weak effect that is related to it.
Nevertheless it doesn't cause any force on an permanent magnet!
Or please give us references about macroscopic effects of the vector potential without B/E fields.

That's about the same as saying, show me the effects of gravity without mass, lol (we can't show you the effects of acceleration from gravity without having a large mass to cause a curvature in space-time).  You're statement above makes it clear you don't understand potentials and fields.  The E and B fields can be derived from the potential A, but the potential can not be derived from the E and B fields.

The Aharonovâ€"Bohm effect shows that the local E and B fields do not contain full information about the electromagnetic field, and the electromagnetic four-potential, A, must be used instead. 

By Stokes' theorem, the magnitude of the Aharonovâ€"Bohm effect can be calculated using A alone or using E and B alone. But when using E and B, however, the effect depends on the field values in a region from which the test particle is excluded, not only classically but also quantum mechanically.

In contrast, the effect depends on A only in the region where the test particle is allowed. Therefore we can either abandon the principle of locality (which most physicists are reluctant to do) or we are forced to accept the realization that the electromagnetic potential offers a more complete description of electromagnetism than the electric and magnetic fields can.

In classical electromagnetism the two descriptions were equivalent. With the addition of quantum theory, though, the electromagnetic potential A is seen as being more fundamental or "real"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aharonov-Bohm_effect

GB
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Bruce_TPU

Hello ALL,

I tried out one of Luc's ideas by placing air gaps at most of the areas that I had magnets touch coils or toroids and you know what..... My input power dropped by 1 watt.  It is now running steady at .170 A @ 12 V.  Also at the same time, my output amperage rose by a third.

Tonight I am building a new input circuit that should give me an input of 1.5 V @ .170 A for a total INPUT wattage of 0.255 watts.

Please remember that I have yet to use electronic switching...LOL  I am saving that for last, and it will hopefully put me into OU land.  But for now, I continue day after day to optimize as I use a rotor to switch between 50 and 70 Hz.   ;D

Cheers,

Bruce
http://www.energyfreedomreport.com
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.