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Overunity Machines Forum



Magnet motor in Argentina

Started by Jdo300, March 19, 2006, 12:46:30 AM

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jbh

Quote from: Omnibus on March 30, 2006, 12:25:25 PM
Here's the link to the video: http://overunity.com/snyder/

thanks for the links, but those are not from the machine that torbay made.
Anyway, the first video does not show anything impressive. it is just a rotor with a very low friction, that cannot start by itself, it needs literally a "helping hand".
The second video, shows a rotor with magnets, holded by hand with rotates at a constant speed. if the device can generate energy, the speed should increase with time. It seems to me that there is a hidden battery somewhere (constant voltage, constant speed) probably in the white ring, which they do not show in the inside.

By the way, I'm still waiting for someone to come up with a working "torbay" motor.

Omnibus

QuoteBy the way, I'm still waiting for someone to come up with a working "torbay" motor.

I don?t think you need to be shown a working Torbay motor. Why? Because you?re like the people who live in the villages in the outskirts of Sofia, Bulgaria. This is a community of its own ? very nice people, laborious, with a unique culture, but quite set in their ways. Here?s what Shops say:

?There? nothing higher than Vitosha (Vitosha is their mountain) and nothing deeper than Iskyr (Iskyr is their brook, hardly a river).

?Why should I worry since even if I worry it will soon pass.?

?I hate to think. When I think it feels like I?m wrestling a bear.?

One day a Shop found himself in the zoo facing the giraffe. He kept watching and watching and in the end concluded: ?There is no such animal?.

Proof that your reaction doesn?t differ much from that of the Shop is the following conclusion you make regarding second Snyder?s video:

QuoteThe second video, shows a rotor with magnets, holded by hand with rotates at a constant speed. if the device can generate energy, the speed should increase with time. It seems to me that there is a hidden battery somewhere (constant voltage, constant speed) probably in the white ring, which they do not show in the inside.

First, the device does generate energy because it obviously rotates which means that a body with a mass is being driven by a force to cover distance, becoming greater and greater. This energy, generated by the body, is at the expense of no energy input from the outside.

Notice, the device is generating energy even if its speed isn?t increasing with time. Have you ever seen a motor turning at given rotations per minute without external input of energy? I haven?t. Until Snyder?s video.

Your comment about the hidden battery is so ridiculous and offensive that needn?t even be mentioned. Here me out well ? there is no hidden battery in Snyder?s device. Period. Also, seeing Snyder?s working, you don?t need to see Torbay?s device to convince yourself that self-sustaining magnetic motors are real.

dutchy1966

Hi everyone,

So far I've been only following the discussions about the torbay engine. Somehow I felt the time has come to join this discussion :)
At the moment I think this engine is one of the few that might possibly work.
I've studied the information given here quite well and think that the only way to get forward with this is to join the "believers" (not negatively meant)  understanding together in a joined plan of how this thing is to be build. I think everyone could agree to the fact that we should continue here with the people that are open to this sort of innovations. As for all others that think it is a hoax or it doesn't work anyway, just leave and stop bothering the rest....
As for myself I would say I've got a pretty good understanding of the engine. There is only one thing at the moment which i do not grasp yet and that is where the springs are exactly and how are attached to the rest of the stator construction.
Anyone here that understand the mounting of the spring exactly?

Dutchy

ewitte

Quote from: jbh on March 31, 2006, 04:55:18 AM
Quote from: ewitte on March 30, 2006, 12:59:07 PM

If I were talking about **APPARENTLY working** designs I would have said hundreds.? Unfortuantely the majority are hoaxes.? I do believe a few I've read about work.? I'd say Tesla had a working system.? As well as the group in Switzerland, Minato, Ed Gray, etc.? I've not seen enough about this design.

see, there is your problem: believing is for God, life after death, and such things. Not for motors, engines, tools and such devices.

Everything adds up, they should work.? But I have to use "believe" because I've not personally evaluated them.? The evidence for this is there.? What you mentioned above has no evidence of existence.? I'd put my money on the magnetic motor way before something that has no evidence at all.  In fact I'd say its impossible that something out there does not work.?

Plus there is definately evidence of coverup in the US.? Tells me something is definately going on.

ewitte

Quote from: jbh on March 31, 2006, 05:11:26 AM
Quote from: Omnibus on March 30, 2006, 12:25:25 PM
Here's the link to the video: http://overunity.com/snyder/

if the device can generate energy, the speed should increase with time.

Not really.? Take two magnets and hold them N-N or S-S at a given distance.? The resistance force is going to be pretty much constant until you change the distance.