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Overunity Machines Forum



Magnet motor in Argentina

Started by Jdo300, March 19, 2006, 12:46:30 AM

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Omnibus

I understand 12a.jpg is under construction but it appears the magnet will be underneath the triangle when finished. In the back of the picture one sees these modules turned aroung as part of the assembled motor. Also, the small wheel isn't mounted which would help pushing the magnet sloping down when in contact with the motor cap.

Ultimately, it doesn't matter where the magnets are going to be, on top of triangle or at the bottom. The important thing is that now it seems we understand what the principle of lifting of the stator magnets is -- the triangles being immovably attached to the stator magnets.

Another thing which seems to be clear already is that there are no springs but because of the repulsive forces among the stator magnets, when lifted they stay where they are until the moment the motor cap ("sist. de descenso controlado" attached to the rotor) starts pushing them sloping down.

What needs to be understood more is what exactly the shape of the motor cap is which forces the stator magneds sloping down.

Feb2006

A wooden rotor cap  variant can look like this (see picture).
Or you can have a aluminium rotor cap in the right shape.
Its only a engineering question.
Only non magnetic material exept the magnets of course.

Its a (triangular) ramp on the rotor cap thats push down the arm
and then the rotor cap holds down the arm (against repulsion by magnets) until its turn to rise.
The important is timing of the arms.
For the timing have a look att msg5649 and msg5650.

Quote msg5653

"That's correct. When the three rotor magnets are exactly facing three of the stator magnets only one magnet is raised. At the moments before the second picture (between the first and the second picture) there are two displaced magnets -- one which is on its way down and another one on its way up."

dutchy1966

Quote from: Omnibus on April 01, 2006, 05:37:07 AM
Another thing which seems to be clear already is that there are no springs but because of the repulsive forces among the stator magnets, when lifted they stay where they are until the moment the motor cap ("sist. de descenso controlado" attached to the rotor) starts pushing them sloping down.

Hi Omnibus,

I can agree with you about the motor cap being the thing that pushes the lifted stator magnet back down (due to a slope in the cap i guess). But i also think that there still will be a spring in play. It should keep the stator magnet down once it has descended. If there isn't one then the stator magnet might pop back up because it's head on with the rotor magnets (which cant move up). So i guess there might be a spring alongside with the controlled descending system. How else would the stator magnet stay down?

Dutchy

Omnibus

Feb2006, so, the motor cap ("sist. de descenso controlado" attached to the rotor) holds down most of the stator magnets all the time. Except for that particular stator magnet which is to be raised (the raising, due to the repulsive forces but also being assisted by another ramp ? the triangular one) when the motor cap in your last picture suddenly ends and except for the stator magnet next to it which is being pushed sloping down by the bevel of the motor cap shown in the picture.

Omnibus

QuoteBut i also think that there still will be a spring in play. It should keep the stator magnet down once it has descended. If there isn't one then the stator magnet might pop back up because it's head on with the rotor magnets (which cant move up). So i guess there might be a spring alongside with the controlled descending system. How else would the stator magnet stay down?

dutchy1966, see the last picture of Feb2006. That construction takes care of descended magnets popping up without springs ? it appears that the motor cap holds down most of the stator magnets all the time, except for these two stator magnets that have to be raised and lowered.