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Magnet motor in Argentina

Started by Jdo300, March 19, 2006, 12:46:30 AM

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Omnibus

How do you mean "an Argentian bigot of Eric Krieg
magnitude"? Please explain.

Gwendir

Babelfish did the job ....? :D

Or these type is of the tomato or knows one picks of which they speak
It is a description of pricipio of operation, the concept it is basic, necessary, now the subject is if they really managed it to make work):

IINTENTARE TO EXPLAIN the principle of operation of way to that somebody not very interiorizado in this field IT CAN INCLUDE/UNDERSTAND FACILMENTE.)

First we must remember the reaction that produces between if two faced permanent magnets. Acercandolos are two effects that can be produced:cuando the poles are different are attracted and when the poles are equal are rejected;
It is this I complete effect (the rejection of equal poles) the used one for the operation of the invention. Added to the this cuts in way magnets to turn aside the lines of magnetica force being able with these ultimos to control direction, speed and acceleration.

If we obtained that two magnets are rejected and one remains inmovil whereas the other can desplazarce this I complete always tendera to desplazarce towards the position with smaller by ricochet magnetico influence.
Obtaining that a rejected magnet moves to a later position to which it is, this at a first moment is not rejected and after reaching this position the other magnet is replaced mecanicamente, forcing it to desplazarce to another position in caul another magnet is replaced again again forcing it to continue moving and and repeating the reposicionamiento of magnets a continuous movement is obtained.
It is possible to clarify that so that the reposicionamiento of magnets is not necessary the external application of energia since we used same energia magnetica stored in own magnets

The acceleration,el direction of rotation and the speed are controlled by means of different variants in the angulos and cuts made in magnets, those that allow to turn aside the lines of magnetica force according to agree.


IT FORMS TO DO IT

The invention consists of two types of pieces: main and several secondary ones.

The main pieces are the rotor arm, the elevables arms and the magnets and the secondary pieces are the screws, rulemanes, bases, etc; that they are used for the subjection, disminucionde friction, estetica, etc.


First we are going to establish some variables: the rotor arm (br) has a starting point which we will call Pn, the magnetica force by ricochet generated by the rotor arm sera Z1 call on the other hand in the external ring we will name to each I modulate elevateable like M1, M2, M3, etc and to its respective magneticas forces by ricochet like F1, F2, F3, etc.Es essential to consider that forces Z and F estan directly related to the size of magnets and the composition of such, of which we ended up deducing that Z=F+F+F=3F.


The angulos of cuts (alpha) in magnets of the modulos elevanles podran to be varied according to agrees to control acceleration magnetica friction, and speed. To knowledge that as we increased (alpha) the friction magnetica sera greater, the greater sera initial acceleration and the constant speed sera minor, whereas if alpha diminishes the initial acceleration sera minor and the constant speed increased.

The angulos of cut (beta) and location of these in magnets of the rotor arm permitiran to control direction of rotation.

The variation produced in the angulos of cut in magnets (alpha and beta) allows the deviation of the lines of force so that when increasing the angulos of cut in anyone of these the deviation of the lines of considerably greater sera magnetica force hacercandoce but to the poles whereas when diminishing these angulos the lines of force were turned aside in inverse form


The variable Q represents the opposed forces in which we included friction, friction, gravity, weight, etc.En the starting point (P1) the rotor arm is in rest generating on the other hand Z1 by mecanico system M4 rises reason why its by ricochet magnetica force does not influence the rotor arm; it is possible to clarify that the rest of the Ms estan all losses.
As Z1 is rejected with F1, F2, f3 and also part of F15, f16 we managed to obtain a by ricochet magnetico force that we called X and that sera equal to Z1+F+F+F=X clearing the equation On the other hand we have left X=F+F+F+F+F+F=6F Fq=F we concluded in which X>>>F4 (F4 is the F generated by M4) (we clarified that F4<F due to its displacement and which X>>>Q reason why we forced to the rotor arm to desplazarce towards the position 2(P2), by mecanico system low M4 and M5 rises repeating all the previous process,de this way the rotor arm moves (Pn+1) X=6F-F4-Q=4+ infinitely

Observations:
all the external forces of friction, friction, weight and others estan contemplated in Q.Los magnets must be permannetes with high temperature of courie so that the possible overheatings do not degrade their condition of magnet.

On the other hand the continuous circular movement and the rejection of poles favor and allow to maintain their magnetica condition conserving including the original poles.

Explanations: all the F originally calculated in Gaussian, ademas single the Ms and the end of the rotor arm is permanent magnets, the rest must be material not magenticos(aluminio, bronze, magnesium, etc). The F internal must be the sufficiently intense ones like so that great magneticos fields they do not include in the good operation of the invention... "

First of all, a explanation, the "Explanation of the Operation" is not mine but of the inventor (WALTER DARIO TORBAY).

I think that the key (if is certain that it works) consists of this mechanical reposicionamiento, and fit two possibilities here:
1? Is a fraud and they do not explain this point to intention.
2? Is the "key" of the mechanism and its operation is hidden intentionally.

Until I have not received answer to my messages now. Let us hope to see that it happens. The newspapers announced that they already had patented the design, of all certain ways "extra protections" do not come bad.

Nobody I raise serious and documented that validates or contradicts this "official explanation" will be welcome.
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The question of many is simply: Of where extractions energia? Then energia is not created nor destroys. Of ningun site, I am creating it. Ah, good.

I have another very simple source of energia perpetual. To see if you see the fault him:

A tunnel with a plate in the ceiling and the ground between which a constant electrico field is created. A loaded sphere that as soon as you leave it in the ground of the tunnel sticks a jump until a the ceiling. Then it extractions of the tunnel dragging it by the ceiling and already outside the tunnel any mecanico device falls to the ground moving to generate energia. Once in the ground you drag it within the tunnel again, then it sticks a boat until the ceiling and you repeat the cycle.

(Calculin)

Jdo300

Hey Guys,

The best way to figure this motor out would be to get into direct contact with the inventor. Now, it seems that some of these news releases are quite recent (http://www.asalup.org/content/view/154/1/ for instance which was last modified on the 19th of March). Maybe we can contact the editor who wrote the article for updated contact information for the inventor.

As for the translations, I can speak some spanish (took it in High school) and will be able to translate the passages if no one else can, but like everyone else here, I'm busy trying to keep up in school at the moment and can't spare the extra time just yet.

God Bless,
Jason O

Jdo300

In an attempt to find the inventor's patent, I went to Argentina's patent website and searched for his patent number: http://200.80.204.181/logon.asp. But a different patent comes up for the numbers I put in. Maybe I am looking in the wrong database, could someone double check this for me?

God Bless,
Jason O

Omnibus

I?m trying to reach Torbay in Argentina but to no avail. Called the consul of Argentina in New York who promised to find out the contact info for Torbay ? haven?t received anything from the consul yet. The consul didn?t seem to have heard about this story. An Argentinean embassy in Europe was also contacted and they didn?t seem to know anything about this as well. Tried to call Torbay on his cell phone 54-9-223-15-5051-220 but with no success. I also wrote an e-mail to the director of the Argentinean newspaper Diario de Cuyo which has a story about Torbay?s motor in its issue of 8 March, 2006. No reply from them yet. Will keep on trying.