Magnet motor in Argentina

[Omnibus]

cesarc, thank you for the translation. Before discussing it I'd like to ask you the following. Torbay refers in his explanation to a video. Do you by any chance have this video? If you do, would you be so kind as to upload it to this forum? Thanks in advance.

[Omnibus]

cesarc, as I understand from Mr. Torbay?s description, in this particular configuration under discussion in the Spanish forum, the rotor magnets are four and not three as we have seen in a previous picture discussed here in this forum. This wouldn?t make much of a difference with regard to the principle of action, I guess (only that four rotor magnets would probably make the motor more powerful). I still don?t understand, however, how the stator magnets are being lifted and then lowered. Torbay refers to a ?rotor arm? but this I take it to mean just ?rotor? not having anything to do with a possible arm that lifts or lowers the magnets. Am I understanding it right?

[Liberty]

I will probably get clobbered for this again, but; I believe upon close inspection of what is said in the translation, the 4 magnets in the rotor, are actually the 4 stator magnets that are facing the rotor (providing the magnetic effect of 4 magnets).  The strength of the stator magnets in the rotor are providing the repulsive power in the rotor to lift the magnetic cradle arm. 

At the beginning, it is stated that there are only 8 permanent magnets.  If you refer to my previous picture, you can see that there are 4 stator magnets facing the rotor.  I believe that the stator magnets are providing the only magnetic field in the motor through the rotor.  I believe that Torbay is saying that the strength of the 4 stator magnets through the rotor are plenty of power to lift the cradle arm magnet.

Here is another example of a working motor that has excellent torque that uses the same principle.

[Omnibus]

liberty, I think we should already consider established that the rotor has magnets immovably attached to it. The picture we discussed shows three rotor magnets while in this new text by Torbay the rotor magnets are four. Torbay speaks of 8 magnets because he counts the four rotor magnets and the corresponding four magnets of the stator facing them. This is a peculiar way of explanation which was present still in Torbay?s first text which we were struggling to translate and discuss. There, in that previous text, Torbay was talking about 6 magnets ? three rotor magnets facing three stator magnets. And, based on this picture he wrote also equations with which he tried to explain where the driving net force comes from.

This part, as I said, I take as already established and it does not comprise the problem. The problem, as I see it is, what is the concrete mechanism of lifting and lowering the stator magnets? Also what are exactly these cuts in the magnets which Torbay mentions, that are hard to attain uniform?

[cesarc]

Hi Omnibus
The post from Torbay was made in 2004, November 8.
http://www.hispaseti.org/foroWanaH/viewtopic.php?t=3314&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30&sid=b612d30b33fe784c0805547d85dc9fa1

Apparently there was a video in that time, but now the video does not exist in the Torbay's page.
http://www.icyti.ar.gs/

There are no other information. I sent an email to Torbay, but he does not reply.

I still don't understand how the device work.