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All of Stanley Meyer's Equipment FOUND Including Dune Buggy! (Videos Here)

Started by chessnyt, January 19, 2010, 03:16:34 AM

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chessnyt

Quote from: Loner on January 23, 2010, 11:36:00 AM
I hate to negative, but the actual "Physical" devices may not be much help in obtaining the information on Meyer.  There are things about his "methods" that are not revealed, and as I haven't proof of the exact details, I am not qualified to comment on the theory, however I do know that unless you have a "FULL" device, in actual operation, deriving the theory of operation ain't a simple task.  (Desired bad english...)

The first thing that must be accepted is that "Normal" electron flow based electrolysis has NOTHING to do with the process.  Standard transformer theory is the next thing that must be ignored.  Once you get to that point, it should be a little easier, but still not simple.

If you actually have read the "P" man's patent (I can't spell his name from memory.), you can relate Meyers video lectures quite handily, as long as you ignore certain incorrect references to "electrons", as Meyer, himself, switched back and forth, assuming we would understand this dividing line.  Most, to this day, never are able to cross that line.  Without making that leap, one should be a skeptic, as this type of device IS impossible using standard procedures.  Hand me the original Tube setup, with the original circuit, and not include the actual transformer that went with THAT specific design, and poof, no useful results.  (Remember, secondary resonance, etc....)

Of course, seeing that I don't have an operating system, my comments are worth no more than anyone else's.  Until someone has an actual operating device, using the "Tickle" function, as coined by Beardon, then we really won't know, one way or the other.  I have done enough to prove that a standard setup, just using conventional signals and electrolysis theory, is not what Meyer is about.  (Nor the "P" man either....)  I could go on for far too long, as I've spent too much time on this in the lab, but I hope I've said what I felt was needed, that being the fact of obtaining the original components probably won't be much of a help.  If it's not complete, then how it works is back to "Theory".  If it IS complete, and operable, then very useful data could be obtained, as long as the person reverse-engineering it was open-minded enough to accept what he finds.....

As a final example of what I really mean, if you wanted to stall someone's research into an ICE, and handed them a V8 engine that was NOT running, fixing it could be difficult.  If they had NO knowledge of how it worked, it gets harder.  NOW, just remove the Timing chain (Belt...) and see how long it takes.  Just improper re-assembly would destroy the engine.  Now realize that this is a simple mechanical device....  See where I'm going......

I see where you're going with this and I have never said that it would be easy putting together a working prototype of Meyer’s water powered car nor am I changing my position now.  I believe it will be a difficult and tedious task to accomplish even given all the components that are currently available.

My own opinion is to attempt to reassemble his first dune buggy setup which was the carbureted version of his water car.  The reason I believe this may be the best approach is because it is the most tried and true water car system Meyer assembled and drove around for several years.  Also, it was the only completed water car setup Meyer assembled.

Since Meyer didn’t get a chance to actually finish the injector setup, nobody (and I could be mistaken here) knows precisely which components are missing or needed to be built to complete the injector setup.  For example; the current injector system has a control circuit board that was left unfinished by Meyer.  God only knows how much and then specifically what else was unperfected, uninstalled or yet to be designed, tested and built to finish the injector setup.  My hat is off to those claiming they know.

Also, nobody knows for sure what is left in Meyer’s documentation (electronic or otherwise).  I would personally like to see a collection of experts assist the owner in reassembling the carbureted setup of Meyer’s water powered car (bird in the hand so to speak) but I’m not the owner and that’s not my call.

nightlife

Quote from: fritz on January 23, 2010, 07:14:59 PM
Hi !

I like your V8 timing belt approach !!

The name of Mr. P is Puharich.
The even bigger question for me is where Mr. P got his inspiration - or who did it for him - because his business was reported to be somewhat different.
....

Puharich spent many years working on alternative energy devises. His main work did go hand in hand with what his alternative energy work. You must also know that he was  friends with and worked with some great names such as Tesla and Bearden and many others. Energy is vibrance and his work was all about vibrance.
We don't know much about this man because he was isolated and surrounded by government intelligence. Even in his last days he was housed with intelligence. He had a lot to do with HARRP as well as many other top secret projects. There is much to learn from what this man has done if only we could get a hold of the classified files that contain his work.
I will be going south to see my dad next month and I will talk to him about Puharich, Rauscher and some of the other names I have came across.  I will bring up those names and see what he say's. They all served during the same time and if they were really someone, he would know them. I would  just call him but he will hang up on me if i try to talk to him about any of this stuff. He won't even get internet because it's not secure enough for him. If it wasn't for his wife, he wouldn't have a phone. He is a nuclear engineer who was one of the highest ranking naval cheifs at that time and he refused to become an admiral which is why he retired. He was given a choice and he chose to retire.

Now lets get back to Puharich's injector. I think you all are missing a very important factor and that is the frequency's used. These frequency's are sent to the last two plates of the injector just before the exit point. These frequency's are not our average frequency's used in electricity. They seem to be used  to create a harmonics used to split the water molecules. Kind of like we do when using positive and negative plates but with both being positive but different frequency's. This takes us back to some of John Hutchinson's work as well as the Tacoma Narrows Bridge failure. It's all about the vibrance limit of the water molecules bubble. Neutralise the bubbles vibrance and the contents will be vulnerable. Then we can supply a vibrance that will release the vibrancy's that makes up the contents which would create a burst of vibrance.
I am quite tired right now.  Just got back from a long day at the casino. I will explain more about this later.

  Something you all must get in your heads is that nothing is solid and everything is vibrant because everything is made up of vibrancy's and everything has a vibrancy limit. There is no such thing as an electron unless we consider it as a vibrance. Don't allow yourself to think things are any more complicated then they really are. When you do, you end up missing out on  the obvious.
Come out side of the box with me for a few. What happens when you split an atom?  You release the energy that is compressed inside of it. What is energy? Energy is nothing more then a flow of vibrance. Think about it.  ;)

chessnyt

Quote from: jratcliff on January 19, 2010, 12:17:12 PM
I thought Dr. Steven Greer bought the A Buggy already?

The Orion Project had showed an interest in purchasing Stan Meyer’s equipment but as of recent they have backed out of a deal with the owner. 

happyfunball

Quote from: chessnyt on January 22, 2010, 01:28:20 AM
If you can’t take your own medicine, stop trying to be a doctor.

What medicine is that? I expressed skepticism. Do you really think is isn't absurd to try to tell me you are doing the same by expressing 'skepticism' that I am 'happy?'

happyfunball

Quote from: 4Tesla on January 22, 2010, 02:51:36 AM
Happyfunball,

Have you even followed Stanley's work?  A lot of his stuff is on video and worked and has been replicated!

You should stay off this thread unless you have something useful to contribute.

4Tesla

PS - His main research was in HHO.. an alternative fuel.. nothing to do with OU.

Yes, I know all about Stan Meyer. The basic speculation is, he had an extremely efficient means of electrolysis. We don't know if he did or did not. The method would obviously need to be extremely efficient to be worthwhile. His dune buggy was essentially a hydrogen fuel cell vehicle with on-board splitting. Supposedly. We don't have that either. Parts are missing, apparently. What exactly do we have? Lots of speculation, accusations of govenrmental interference, and speculation that he was murdered.