Stan Meyer Mystery Finally Solved

[craZy]

The key to Meyer is the high amp output of his heavy duty 3 phase alternator.  At least this is what I have stumbled onto anyway.  It's really simple if you have a medium to advanced level of electrical knowledge.

Notice Meyer would never attempt to power his fuel cells straight off of his dune buggy engine.  If he did, he would have to open his engine throttle all the way all of the time and he may miss the correct RPM.

Why would RPM be so important to an alternator powering his fuel cell (tubal cluster array) ?  Because with an alternator just as with any AC generator, the frequency of the current is determined by the RPMs!  I messed with this aspect for weeks!  You have to find the right RPMs in order to produce the ideal frequency.  Once you find the correct RPMs (just as Meyer had to do) then you need to fix the alternator to run at the ideal RPMs all the time, constantly.  You achieve this by driving the alternator with an AC motor with the correct pulley size by means of a fan belt.  It's not only in his bench demo video.  It's also on his dune buggy mounted on top the driver's side rear wheel fender.  Freeze the videos and you'll see it there too. 

Messing which 12volts from a battery charger plugged into the wall means I can guarantee you have too low of frequency in your voltage.  You have only 60 hertz which is NOT even nearly enough. 

Now I know where most people go wrong.  They say "But Meyer had a frequency modifying board he patented!".  Yes, this is very true.  He sure did, BUT HE NEVER USED IT!  He always used an alternator where he could PHYSICALLY control the hertz by controlling the RPM of his generator which in his case was an alternator.  Not electronically like he wanted everyone to believe.
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I think that is very interesting. If I had a cell already built I`d have to tinker with that. People sometimes are impatient and want insant results from an idea. Would be nice if it turns out to be true.
I hooked up lights one time to a go kart engine directly, bad idea as the rpms went up the bulb blew. S i guess i could kinda see where your idea is worth checking. at the very least thanks for sharing your thoughts.

[sushimoto]

Hi Folks,
besides, that i share the thinking of "WorldOrder" and "CraZy" to first understand the Inventor
prior to his findings and further "camouflage", I would like to know if anybody has
tried and practically verified the S.M.-SolidState-Stuff from these people at hydrogengarage:
http://hydrogengarage.com/pwm3g/



Or is the "analog way" the only possible solution in regard to resonances?

best,
sushi

[ramset]

seems like their R+D is closed right now

">Presently shut down (10/09) Should be back up soon."

Hope they don't expect to much without testimonials ?

Yah know power in power out [usable]kind of stuff!!

I may not run my car on this but if it make c$nts I'll heat the house!

Chet

[chessnyt]

The answer to Meyer’s fuel cell has been there the whole time yet nobody saw it until recently.  I just discovered it in March of last year and I believe that many other people are very close to getting it right as well. 

The secret is in two of Meyer’s patents.  Think about it for a moment.  You just made the discovery of the century.  If you don’t rush out and get a patent before somebody else does, it will be stolen right out from underneath of you and you’ll never see a dime or receive any credit.  It’s happened to many great inventors in the past.

I studied Nikola Tesla for quite some time and I came away realizing that Tesla is the one who in reality discovered the radio, however he never received credit for it.  Someone stole his radio technology from him and received not only the patent rights, but also the credit.  If you study him, you will see I’m correct.   Meyer wanted to be sure this wouldn’t happen to him too. 

If Meyer didn’t have a legitimate scientific breakthrough, then why would he need a patent?  He could have conned people without going to all the trouble, time and expense that it cost him filing for and later being awarded many patents.  Or, he could have just stopped trying to get additional patents after being awarded just one patent.  The reason for all the patents he filed is for greater protection from invention thieves like the one who robbed Tesla of his radio technology.

Now suppose Meyer filed the patents, but left out critical information.  This doesn’t make sense for many reasons.  If he leaves out details in his patents, then they are worthless and can not protect him legally in court so why would anyone bother to file worthless patents that can not and will not protect their intellectual property?  Leaving out details in a patent only leaves room for someone else to come along and get lucky and file another patent that now prevents the original inventor from being able to profit from the invention. 

What about giving too much information in a patent?  Is there an adverse affect to doing that?  No.  It makes perfect sense.  It allows you to confuse the copycats because sometimes bad information is worse than none at all.  He sent the world on a wild goose chase and recorded many lectures in order to through people off track which is why nobody understood him.  Did anyone notice how vague he was when asked specific questions?  He did a beautiful job of disinformation.  His propaganda was working just fine all of these years even after his death up until now.

He felt he had to patent solid state methods of operating his tubular array so he would be protected should anyone duplicate his success with a solid state device at a later time.  The confusion aspect was simply an added bonus which he fully exploited after the fact. 

Now one has to figure out which patent or patents are critical and which ones are just filed for greater protection.  This is the difficult part.  At least it was difficult for me.  If you go through all of his patents concerning his earlier stages of development, you will notice that some of his patents seem to accomplish the exact same things in different ways.  So which ones actually work?  Which methods did he actually employ?  Well if you try the digital solid state methods, you will get good results, but definitely no over unity.  This only leaves you with one other option left.  His analog setup.
 
The key to Meyer is the high amp output of his heavy duty 3 phase alternator.  At least this is what I have stumbled onto anyway.  It's really simple if you have a medium to advanced level of electrical knowledge.

Notice Meyer would never attempt to power his fuel cells straight off of his dune buggy engine.  If he did, he would have to open his engine throttle all the way all of the time and he may miss the correct RPM.

Why would RPM be so important to an alternator powering his fuel cell (tubal cluster array) ?  Because with an alternator just as with any AC generator, the frequency of the current is determined by the RPMs!  I messed with this aspect for weeks!  You have to find the right RPMs in order to produce the ideal frequency.  Once you find the correct RPMs (just as Meyer had to do) then you need to fix the alternator to run at the ideal RPMs all the time, constantly.  You achieve this by driving the alternator with an AC motor with the correct pulley size by means of a fan belt.  It's not only in his bench demo video.  It's also on his dune buggy mounted on top the driver's side rear wheel fender.  Freeze the videos and you'll see it there too. 

Messing which 12volts from a battery charger plugged into the wall means I can guarantee you have too low of frequency in your voltage.  You have only 60 hertz which is NOT even nearly enough. 

Now I know where most people go wrong.  They say "But Meyer had a frequency modifying board he patented!".  Yes, this is very true.  He sure did, BUT HE NEVER USED IT!  He always used an alternator where he could PHYSICALLY control the hertz by controlling the RPM of his generator which in his case was an alternator.  Not electronically like he wanted everyone to believe.

WorldOrder,

I have looked through all of the videos I could find of Meyer driving around in his dune buggy and just like you stated, the electric motor is mounted right above the rear tire connected to an alternator with a fan belt.

I did find one video where the electric motor turning the alternator was not mounted on the dune buggy.  It was a video where the dune buggy was only idling, but then I saw it on the ground on the passenger side of the dune buggy.

There is credence to what you are claiming but I would like to know if you have any explanation why there is a guy riding on the back of the dune buggy while Meyer is driving on the road, please.

[WorldOrder]

@ Wilby

so that's a no then, you don't have a working prototype that can run an ICE A... therefore you haven't solved the stan meyer mystery.

That’s like saying you can not figure out alternating current that Tesla invented until you have built a working AC generator!  Or, you don’t know how your car’s engine works until you’ve built a working engine first.  What kind of happy horse shist is that?  I actually liked you better as a drunk.  At least then you had a viable excuse to sound like an idiot.

@ Crazy

Thank you for having an open mind.  A closed one tends to limit one’s progress.

@ Chessman

I don’t know for sure what the job of the guy was that rode on the back of Stan’s dune buggy while Stan was road testing the vehicle.  I do know that when I reached the correct frequency, the cell’s gas production skyrocketed and my amperage draw actually decreased!  I can not explain the occurrence of this anomaly but it does not last for long.  The cell will fall out of “resonance” which will require constant correction.  My best guess is that the guy riding on the back of Meyer’s dune buggy was there to keep the cell(s) in “resonance” while Stan did the driving and smiling for the cameras.  I could be wrong about this.   

One thing has to make you wonder, though.  If Meyer had a way to control the cell automatically through solid state electronics like he said he did, then why would he need anyone to ride on the back making adjustments while he drove the vehicle?

You’re going to have to do more than just review videos of Meyer online to understand what he actually did.  If you build his cell as prescribed in Meyer’s patents which show his alternator along with a variable transformer, you will see much clearer what I’m talking about.

Regards,
W.O.