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Home made Efficient Electroplated Thermocouples

Started by onthecuttingedge2005, February 15, 2010, 03:27:53 AM

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onthecuttingedge2005

by setting up two different electroplate baths of dissimilar metals, one can electroplate for example, Cu, Ni, Cu, Ni continuing this process hundreds or thousands of times until enough alternating dissimilar electroplating is accomplished, each dissimilar layer between 1 and 10 Microns in thickness, the more dissimilar layers the greater the voltage, the volume of the surface layers will determine amperes when exposed to a heat source and will generate electricity.

although it would be better to use dissimilar metals in accordance to the dissimilar Electronegative properties.

electroplating is a very good technique for making very efficient thermocouple and or thermopiles for generating electricity from heat and should at some point be more efficient than standard Peltier devices so long as the alternating layers are thick enough has a whole.

using the Electroplating technique one could make rather large thermocouple plates very easily.


Jerry

pese

New idea (!?)

electrolate this way. an 1mm copper wire or thiker iron wire..
Heat up the inner wire wizh low volatge (higher current.

coling the outside. (fan or water)
so you invert the voltage to higher voltage
with thermotransformation.

Just an Idea from

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pese

Quote from: jadaro2600 on February 16, 2010, 12:19:59 AM
Voltage is easy, current not so easy.
With my peltiers i cave current !
.
i think  also with this elecroplating , you will find "current",
because you have an great surface - layer-to layer!
Pese

BUT !!:

This idea held an Error

This can only work on one layer. !!

A Multilayer can not work because
every  EVEN and ODD layer must have a different temperature.
So its us used in any serie connected peltier elements  that i have seen to produce voltage (and power) to drive TV-Sets !! (50 years ago !!



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onthecuttingedge2005

it is true that Electroplated Thermocouples would need a temperature gradient just like a peltier, one side hotter than the other, thermal gradient travels to the 'cooler' side, the temperature would be different at different depths of the plated material do to the thickness and volume area and differences in temperature on both sides. Heat likes to take the path of least thermal resistance. thermal N,P,N,P is still the best route.

the cool thing about Electroplated Thermocouples is that they can be made easily and cheaper so long as you make your own plate solutions.