Pulsed DC Transformer with Embedded Magnets

Charlieb000 · December 27, 2010, 05:13:19 AM

Quote from: SchubertReijiMaigo on December 27, 2010, 04:24:22 AM
I have noticed that also, Resonance is a common part in FE devices but request a lot of tuning and knowledge about this, like a Radio Amator or a Tesla-Coiler...

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Here with the Fleet devices I 'am very sceptic why ? Because of the large risk of measurement error: this is very difficult to measure distorded square wave, and the milliwatts range add nothing better... I prefer large scale overunity in watts range or even in the hundreds whatts range, and straight DC or beautiful sine waves measurement, and the guys know something about Power Factor measurement... (Reactive power vs Real power)...

i like to choose devices where the amount extra is obvious (two stage oscilator is an example), else once you are done your device consumes 1KW to make 100W. (COP1.1) sure you can boil water or something to recover it, but you may need to see where the energy is being wasted, after all, it takes energy to create a secondary effect where is the input energy going? into the output? can it be isolated?

when i said that lenz law aplies, i meant the output coil not control coils or magnet, the output coil creates a repelling force when the output is loaded and this is the force on your magnet. see the bittoroid stuff on this too.

sometimes resonance is misidintified, unneeded, and it is noteworthy that it is like your pencilcase - you put energy in and the energy is stored in the resonance (even if its from your OU device), and you can take the energy out, but stored resonance doesnt create energy inside the resonance but instead the components used when storing the energy can create energy like when the inductor has charge its got a usable magnetic field, when the capacitor has charge there is an electric field in between the plates. in the two stage osc it was a weight gain and pull in direction of the pend swing (because of changing acceleration)

we have been told that we can charge an inductor up to attract a magnet and then remove the charge from the inductor and get the EMF and the magnet is still moving towards it - to have an overunity motor. here in this magnet transformer, we charge the inductor up and attract the magnetic domains in the steel and we remove the charge from the inductor and we have the motion still in the domains in the steel due to resonance(just like a compass needle swinging before it settles to point at your magnet, here it is still moving), we moved the magnetic domains and they continued to move to a finite point then bounced back and forth in the other direction(s), and will finally settle back in the direction of "ambient" magnetism or thereabouts or on average.

Charlie.

Charlieb000 · December 27, 2010, 06:17:27 AM

with my replies so far i assumed the topic was still on the pulsed DC transformer, i just found out tsung just changed the device he was talking about without changing the subject (Re: Pulsed....)* and i see all talk about this new device is completely useless, because tseung has not given us any workable information causing people to comment on what they dont know...

can we keep the subject on what we can use - please?

*amittably when you click on reply down the bottom, the subject is automatically set to the topic name - which can be modified, but is better is to start a new topic if you have a new device.

tagor · December 27, 2010, 06:33:17 AM

Quote from: Charlieb000 on December 27, 2010, 05:13:19 AM
i like to choose devices where the amount extra is obvious (two stage oscilator is an example), else once you are done your device consumes 1KW to make 100W.

there is no proof of your claim

there is a lot of devices but I never seen consistant data on 2 stage oscilator ... on this forum no

do you know only one ?

SchubertReijiMaigo · December 27, 2010, 06:42:55 AM

Quotesometimes resonance is misidintified, unneeded, and it is noteworthy that it is like your pencilcase - you put energy in and the energy is stored in the resonance (even if its from your OU device), and you can take the energy out, but stored resonance doesnt create energy inside the resonance but instead the components used when storing the energy can create energy like when the inductor has charge its got a usable magnetic field, when the capacitor has charge there is an electric field in between the plates. in the two stage osc it was a weight gain and pull in direction of the pend swing (because of changing acceleration)

Yes you are all right, the resonance itself doesn't "create" energy inside the RLC tank, you have even a decay energy due to R loss --> here conventional physics is all right here.

If you can extract it (or rather convert Reactive energy into useful energy) via a motor or a transformer, why ?
Because creating magnetics (or electric) fieds cost nothing in real energy loaded or not if properly tuned.
This is why the rotoverter can be OU but you need to tune for each different loads the tank, (this is why some experimenter have failed, they are happy to run at idle a big motor at 60 watts but "forget" to retune when they loaded it. The lenz law decrease L untune LCR, destroy Q factor, and in the end you draw more and more real current like any conventional stuff...) If you tune at loaded state you can have one HP (746 watts) with 120 watts of real power (maybe the R losses)...
Same with trafos...
This not for nothing Tesla said one hundred years ago, "You need to tune the source (your LCR) to the load needs (your rotor, or secondary winding of a trafo)".

Note, this devices work with AC signal, no ugly and weirdo square waves...

I hope I have explained this clearly, this is a thing that you can't understand in a few minutes or in couple of phrase, a personal reasearch is necessary...

LT can prove/disprove this theory by replacing the square wave by AC, put a capa in parallel with the primary side.

1) Tune at not loaded state, measure input (real) power, beware cosPHI.
2) Put a load with a rectifier at secondary side (preferably a little bulb)...
3) Tune to the load needs and measure Ein vs Eout beware PF also...

------Ammeter-----------! Trafo 1:1
! ! !--------- ------!
! ! ! > !! < !
! ! C L !! L Rectifier---Ammeter--------
Sine GEN VoltMeter ! > !! < ! ! Voltmeter Bulb, Resistance...
! ! ! > !! < !--------------------------
! ! !--------- ------
--------------------------!

4) OK, this not a Fleet or a JT anymore, but a way to reduce measurment error risk...

Regards.

Charlieb000 · December 27, 2010, 06:45:33 AM

Quote from: tagor on December 27, 2010, 06:33:17 AM
there is no proof of your claim
there is a lot of devices but I never seen consistant data on 2 stage oscilator ... on this forum no
do you know only one ?

um.. i was not making a claim of overunity for the two stage oscilator in my message. the cop1.1 is an example, a response to the comment i replied to - any device with output like that i would not use because its a minimal surplus output and waste of resources.

two stage oscilator video 6:
that one is the only obvious one i know of and it is quite convincing (you find another one on the inventor's website). you can work out the output if you get the formulas on the forces.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactive_centrifugal_force

but this topic isnt about that so i will limit my talking about it.

cb.