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Pulsed DC Transformer with Embedded Magnets

Started by ltseung888, February 24, 2010, 03:55:56 AM

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chrisC

Quote from: markdansie on January 05, 2011, 06:41:25 PM
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@lawrence
I have contacted the league of Jedi knights who will use their over unity light sabre's to protect you. Sleep well knowing the dark forces will be repelled by the Jedi Knights.
@Everyone...someone lock me up I am starting to question my sanity. been reading this thread for too long.
Mark

LOL. There's a very simple explanation. Some people actually see things very differently, irrespective of the truth.

Well, when we see a animal that has black and white spots, has four legs and barks. We call it a dalmatian. But Lawrence sees it as a panda or if you challenge him further, he'll say it's also a zebra!

Let's see what the Stanford professor has to say. Maybe he's too embarrassed to finally figure out transient non-sinusoidal power measurements is not a indication of COP >1.

cheers
chrisC

markdansie

@Chris
perhaps the Stanford Professor might give him a lesson on measuring power in and out (not Peak to Peak). Lawrence is typical of many inventors and even in some cases scientists who only see what they want to see. They look at this data selectively. I had this discussion with a few PH.d holders at a leading research institution in the USA. They said it happens all the time. That's why they seek peer review (privately at first) before going public.
Sometimes people just measure things wrong.
In, if I my use the term, the OU community many will believe anything as they just want to believe, others are open minded and sceptical and then their are the clowns.
To me the ultimate test of any system is closed loop...but that does not mean its overunity. I am about to embark on a project of close looping systems...all independently proved, but being married as one. Will it stand alone and produce power?...yes.....is it overunity....no.
Long conversation, happy to share latter on the forum but for now just those who write to me privately I am happy to discuss with. Look forward to people like your self and omnibus shooting me down in flames(strong possability)
Skype me someday Chris (mark Dansie) nsw australia

Back to Lawrence.....i have some water front land in QLD Australia if you know any investors...be quick as the water wont last for ever (well until the next flood)
mark

ltseung888

The correct way to measure Input and Output Energy via the 2 oscilloscope experiments

For those people who insisted that the peak-to-peak value cannot be trusted, here is a repeat of the test procedure.

1.   You are perfectly correct in saying that the use of peak-to-peak or rms values to derive the Output Energy verse Input Energy is NOT accurate.
2.   The correct way is to get the product of the Instantaneous Input Voltage and the Instantaneous Input Current using the first Oscilloscope.  The Instantaneous Input Voltage waveform can be obtained by placing the Channel 1 probe across the battery or the DC power source.  The instantaneous Output Current waveform can be obtained by placing the Channel 2 probe across a 1 ohm resistor in the circuit.
3.   Many good oscilloscopes have a common ground for Channel 1 and Channel 2.  This ensures that the product of Channel 1 and Channel truly represents the Instantaneous Input Power.  Thus the exact points of connection are important.
4.   The integration of the Instantaneous Input Power over time gives the Input Energy over that particular time interval.  Some good oscilloscopes provide that result directly.  Some others allow the screen shots or the continuous waveform display to be captured onto a computer or data logger for detailed analysis later.
5.   We can do the same for the Output Energy for the same period with a different oscilloscope.  We cannot adjust for the exact time but as the Instantaneous Power Curves are repeatable waveforms, we can get an exact time interval (or a complete period.)
6.   This is the correct and most accurate comparison as recommended by the top academic institutions.  This test is being done by the academics with access to the best oscilloscopes in the World.

In Hong Kong, I purchased the cheap China-made Oscilloscopes at US$350 each.  It did not have functionality 4 (or we have not figured out a way yet).  In USA, I have a simple scope (UNI-T UT81B) that can display the waveform and thus the peak-to-peak voltage value.  But it has no capability to send the screen shot or continuous waveform for analysis.

Thus because of lack of funding for the good oscilloscopes, I settle for quoting the peak-to-peak values.  They may not be accurate but as a first order of comparison, they will show the trend.  The waveform comparison of COP > 200 is so obvious that we can safely use the two cheap China-made oscilloscopes to do the tuning.

The PhysicsProfessor is taking time because he wanted to use the best oscilloscopes at the University and do other additional Power confirmation experiments.  He also hoped to produce the high COP FLEET prototypes at his own university. 

When the authoritative results with the academic reports and papers come out, the above method will clear all doubts.  The results will be absolutely conclusive before I show them to Dr. Steven Chu, the US Secretary of Energy.
Meanwhile, I shall still quote the peak-to-peak values because of lack or equipment.  So please keep insulting me as the fool, idiot  or the clown.  You will have a few more weeks to enjoy your insulting.

With God’s Blessing, the Lead-out or Bring-in Energy Theory will be confirmed.  Humans can enjoy virtually inexhaustible energy from the environment.  Amen.
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
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Omnibus

No, you don't need to quote peak to peak voltages any further. It is absolutely not true that peak to pak voltages can give an idea for the power balance. At any "order of comparison". Just drop it. As for the integrating of the instantaneous power input and output power values over time you don't need two oscilloscopes but only one four-channel scope with proper bandwidth and accuracy. That isn't enough, however. For correct measurements you need proper probes and they are not cheap. They cost more than the scope itself. So, until you obtain data at this level of sophistication of your measurements you need not overwhelm the forum with posting and claims you cannot sustain.

chrisC

Quote from: ltseung888 on January 05, 2011, 08:44:46 PM
The correct way to measure Input and Output Energy via the 2 oscilloscope experiments
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The PhysicsProfessor is taking time because he wanted to use the best oscilloscopes at the University and do other additional Power confirmation experiments.  He also hoped to produce the high COP FLEET prototypes at his own university. 

When the authoritative results with the academic reports and papers come out, the above method will clear all doubts. ...

So you're speaking for the Professor? Well, whatever the professor says, hopefully he will substantiate, after all, he IS a professor at no small institution and you're just selling snake oil. If I'm the professor, I'm not sure I want to be associated with delusional theories, lest my esteemed institution might have second thoughts about my mental ability!

As for Dr. Stephen Chu, I know he's not part of any circus chain.

cheers
chrisC