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Overunity Machines Forum



throttle controled hho

Started by Artic_Knight, February 28, 2010, 01:57:09 PM

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WorldOrder

@ Artic Knight

If you don’t want to reinvent the wheel, so to speak, you might want to use the same controls that are used with gasoline engines that have been converted to run on natural gas or propane.  It is what am I using. 

Regards,
W.O.

Artic_Knight

Quote from: WorldOrder on March 03, 2010, 10:41:54 PM
@ Artic Knight

If you don’t want to reinvent the wheel, so to speak, you might want to use the same controls that are used with gasoline engines that have been converted to run on natural gas or propane.  It is what am I using. 

Regards,
W.O.

you wouldnt by chance have a source for what your using would you? i would appreciate that very much :)

thanks

Artic_Knight

yea im noticing for a fuel injected car mine being a 1992 honda civic you have to do quite a bit of modding for such a similiar fuel. i mean after all were still burning hydrogen  ;D

i apparently need a TPS tap (not sure where mine is) a EFIE mod and im going to have to figure out how to cram my system under the hood.

now another curiosity ive been looking into is that i have O2 sensor in my intake before the engine and apparently after as well. i would think the O2 before the engine would need the mod and not after but as ive been reading the one after needs the mod, so now im wondering what the point of the first o2 sensor is.

fun and games.

HeairBear

Loner makes a very valid point. You have that major obstacle of the computer on the vehicle. Plus, for HHO to burn at all, it has to be almost a perfect 2:1 mix ratio. In my experience, I have found trying to modify my daily driving vehicle which is computer controlled by law(ain't that a bummer), is not worth the time and effort to see any appreciable results. By far, the cost of buying an older non computer controlled vehicle and fixing it up not only offers you a better education with ICE's and alternative fuels, but, you will have control over your parameters and better results in less time. Don't forget about smaller motors though. They can be easily modified, you have only one piston to deal with, and cost of materials will be drastically less. If you have major success with a small motor, then your ready the the big boys!

And like Loner said, this is all old news. If you came here to talk, you came to the right place. If you came here to find a lot of good information easily, without having to sift through thousands of irrelevant posts your in the wrong place. get the documentation you need and start reading it. The internet is the worlds library at your fingertips. Don't waste it here reading all the crap.

On a final note, try to associate with people that are smarter than you, or at least as smart as you. It's hard to talk with people that have no clue or think your nuts for trying such nonsense. This type of research is still considered pseudoscience and you will find opposition with your success.
When I hear of Shoedinger's Cat, I reach for my gun. - Stephen Hawking

Artic_Knight

ok so yea i just need a o2 mod and the hho right? sorry for a second there i thought you might have hinted that i didnt need a o2 mod.

my first test run will be for a lawn mower run completely off hho. that should be fun :) then i figured i would buckle down and build a o2 mod and another unit for the car.

i still got a ways to go because i havent built a "real" hho cell yet anyways. im going to pick up the parts tomorrow for a dry cell. i found a really good document that was very specific of what a good dry cell should be such as enough neutrals for 1.8-2 v a cell how much amps to get a liter measure ments for optimum results it really i think covered everything.  for instance did you know apparently the best efficiency for amps through a cell is .5 amp a square inch of surface area? interesting :)  we will see how well it holds water "haha" very soon. i hope everything turns out with the math it will make for a very efficient cell compared to most you tubers