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LaFonte Group can turn off permanent magnet without work

Started by Paul-R, March 03, 2010, 06:31:34 AM

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synchro1

 @Butch,

             I'm sure you've seen the single magnet rotor Bedini's. Lidmotor has a gang of videos on youtube. A reed switch and tiny bobbin pulse coil are real simple to assemble, and different shape and size diametrically polarized magnets are cheap and easy to come by. There are numerous examples of stationary positions, from a divot below to attractor magnets suspended overhead. Lidmotor demonstrates a levitating cylinder in his latest video. This would give you the frictionless bearing you're searching for. The power from the demagnetization provided by your ingenious stator slots should energize the two side output coils enough to loop the power back to the pulse circuit for a self runner.

mscoffman

Quote from: Loner on March 24, 2010, 07:59:33 PM

Just commenting, as it may still be worth a try.  What do I know???

This still makes me go back to the original "Impossible" designs where
the flux was re-directed via spinning Mu-Metal between different
magnets for flux control.  This setup, with the magnets spinning in
a flux containment "Shroud", should be MUCH more efficient than that
and should be operable with less than 1 watt of power, with good
bearing selection, etc.  (Thinking back to RC Car racing.  Did a LOT
of work saving input power as the only requirement for the class
was the battery size.  You wanted it to die as you crossed the
finish line.  The more you saved, the more you could put into drive,
etc.  I'm sure you understand.)


Yeah, I am still trying to get my brain around this. What are the parameters
of what needs to be accomplished to apply this method? You will notice
there are very few permanent magnet alternators listed on the web.
So ok..they are harder to regulate. They would to some extent compensate
for energy density problems coming from inserting nonmagnetized metal
into the rotor area. At least the rotor of the alternator is the field.

If people have the computational resources I recommend they get access
to femm free magnetic simulation software. I am especially interested
in solid state designs but few people have the knowledge required
for injecting rotating mag fields into toroids, seeming requiring precision
control electronics at speeds near C.

It seems a mechanical vibrating arrangement like a tuning fork
might be an interesting intermediate choice between a rotating
rotor motor and absolutely stationary electronics.

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@Loner

I find it amazing what people can accomplished when the rules
stay fixed... As the "impossible" designs that you talk about.
Good luck and I will be watching what you come up with
renewed interest based on the explanation of methods that you
have discussed. Thanks.

:S:MarkSCoffman

Butch LaFonte

Quote from: phoneboy link=topic=8852.msg234433#msg234433 A=1269520730
Hey folks, this is where I got mine from :http://shop.chemicalstore.com/navigation/detail.asp?MySessionID=84-264881176&CatID=28&id=FE3O4M1
Phoneboy,
Have you made a core yet with this powder using some type of resin?
If so, have you checked to see if it has any residual magnetism after you remove it from a magnetic field?
Thanks,
Butch

Butch LaFonte

Thanks for the info. I would really like to eliminate the bearing drag.
Butch

gotoluc

Hi Butch,

I really like your new PM flux gate design.  I wish you and your team all the best with the build.

Thanks for always sharing work work.

Luc