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LaFonte Group can turn off permanent magnet without work

Started by Paul-R, March 03, 2010, 06:31:34 AM

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LarryC

Got the smaller rotor in, which fits the toroid shape closely, and tested. With the same 10 ohm load, the wave looks better and the voltage and amperage has improved.

I believe these results can be improved with a smaller air gap. It is currently at 3 MM but it needs a much sturdier toroid support to reduce it further. I'll look into building a better support unit.

Also, LC meter has been ordered.

Regards, Larry   

hartiberlin

Hi Larry,
looks nice.
Are these waveforms already after the Full Wave rectifier graetz bridge ?

Did you try to power a load with it yet ?
Can you put a large electrolytic cap behind the graetz bridge and power
a lamp with it and compare input power into a motor to turn it to output DC power ?

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

LarryC

Quote from: hartiberlin link=topic=8852.msg236258#msg236258 A=1270420827
Are these waveforms already after the Full Wave rectifier graetz bridge ?

Did you try to power a load with it yet ?
Can you put a large electrolytic cap behind the graetz bridge and power
a lamp with it and compare input power into a motor to turn it to output DC power ?

Hi Stefan,

The waveforms shown is across a 10 Ohm resistive load only, no bridge.

I will try your your test tomorrow, but please note in the shot with the data display that the Vrms is 2.56 (middle column, second row) and it has proved pretty accurate in the past. So that along with the 10 Ohm load gives a good idea of the output.

You have stated previously that with my small setup that I would be losing about 10 watts. I agree, but since I only had these parts available, I continued on to see how best to optimize.

But for those who wish to do further testing without a lathe to make the Lafonte group rotor, check out this diametrically magnetized cylinder magnets at  http://www.magnet4less.com/product_info.php?cPath=1_133&products_id=652

Regards, Larry

hartiberlin

Okay, I see, with a RMS-Voltage of 2.56 Volts and 10 Ohms
you have about 0.65 Watts output at the 10 Ohms resistor
and your power input was 26 Watts with the load and 20 Watts without the load ?

Hmm,
so you have probably many magnetic losses there.
Could you please show the coils and the rotor ?
Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

EMdevices

@Butch

You tried the switcher as a motor and you did not see any torque?     I hope you realize that you won't see a torque except when the angle theta is close to zero, in my drawing below.   Did you try it in this configuration?   

EM