Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor

[sigmaX]

Hey Vidar,

I just found this (on Perendev, and others) ... I was not aware that magnetic motors "that start to run thru magnetic power" are so common after all ... and all a hoax:

(excerpt, took from: http://www.nuscam.com/perendev.htm )

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I have seen first-hand three magnetic motors running and have written
cost feasibility and reproducibility reports on all three. Two of them
I had in my lab and my staff used the inventors' plans to build several
working replicas. We also went and saw, first-hand, the Perendev
device.

All three designs used "Rare Earth" magnets (Neodymium, or more
correctly stated, Neodymium Iron Boron or NdFeB) and our various
reproductions used NdFeB, SmCo and Ferrite magnets. We did not attempt
to reproduce the Perendev device because of its design proximity to one
of the other two.

The results were always the same: they all run down. Under load, they
run down very quickly. It doesn't take very long for magnets to lose
their magnetism when they are constantly being put in opposition to one
another.

Every magnet has a "maximum energy product" rated in Mega Gauss
Oersteds, MGOe. This is the amount of work a magnet can do before its
level of magnetism has deteriorated to the point that its energy doesn't
reach out far enough to affect anything surrounding it. Contrary to the
popular notion that rare earth magnets are invincible, even the most
expensive sintered NdFeB magnets max out at less than 50 MGOe. If they
are used in a device that puts them constantly in opposition, they will
run down, and this is the whole assumption behind so-called "magnetic
motors".

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So from here it runs down (no pun intended) that any motor filled with magnets in oposing way, would actually work if cleverly placed, but they will run down very quickly (as the sonogram actually shows).

Case is closed folks, it seems...

SigmaX

[hartiberlin]

I believe,
that the statement of Keith Anderson having seen the Perendev Motor
is just not true,
cause Mike Brady, who was recently arrested
has never shown his motor to anybody outside as far as I know
and his video was obviously faked with somebody using
a drill (not beeing seen at the side of the videoframe ) turning the motor.

Didn´t you all wonder, why he never showed new videos
of his motor ?

Now Brady is arrested to have sucked out money from 61 persons
who paid each 20.000 Euros for the motor and never getting anything delivered...

Regards, Stefan.

[Omnibus]

Hey Vidar,

I just found this (on Perendev, and others) ... I was not aware that magnetic motors "that start to run thru magnetic power" are so common after all ... and all a hoax:

(excerpt, took from: http://www.nuscam.com/perendev.htm )

-----------------------------------------

I have seen first-hand three magnetic motors running and have written
cost feasibility and reproducibility reports on all three. Two of them
I had in my lab and my staff used the inventors' plans to build several
working replicas. We also went and saw, first-hand, the Perendev
device.

All three designs used "Rare Earth" magnets (Neodymium, or more
correctly stated, Neodymium Iron Boron or NdFeB) and our various
reproductions used NdFeB, SmCo and Ferrite magnets. We did not attempt
to reproduce the Perendev device because of its design proximity to one
of the other two.

The results were always the same: they all run down. Under load, they
run down very quickly. It doesn't take very long for magnets to lose
their magnetism when they are constantly being put in opposition to one
another.

Every magnet has a "maximum energy product" rated in Mega Gauss
Oersteds, MGOe. This is the amount of work a magnet can do before its
level of magnetism has deteriorated to the point that its energy doesn't
reach out far enough to affect anything surrounding it. Contrary to the
popular notion that rare earth magnets are invincible, even the most
expensive sintered NdFeB magnets max out at less than 50 MGOe. If they
are used in a device that puts them constantly in opposition, they will
run down, and this is the whole assumption behind so-called "magnetic
motors".

-----------------------------------------

So from here it runs down (no pun intended) that any motor filled with magnets in oposing way, would actually work if cleverly placed, but they will run down very quickly (as the sonogram actually shows).

Case is closed folks, it seems...

SigmaX

Show me an all magnet motor that would make more than one full turn self-starting and don't worry about magnets running down. Where can I see this?

[hartiberlin]

Regarding the
Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor
it seems that the audio diagramm shows it quite nice,
that the RPM is going down and this
tells me, that the motor is
powered internally via batteries, which are
slowly discharging.

So the statement that there are EMF coils,
which just stabilize the RPM is not very plausible...

I don´t think that it could be magnets, which wear out
and discharge their magnetism...

As it is obvious, that there are coils inside there,
it is very probably that there is also a hidden battery
that is discharging.

Has anybody asked Muammer Yildiz  what happened
with his earlier device and why he did not come forward with this again ?

He had also a big claim then at this time in 2005 when he had his
ALubox-Case device and he never delivered any real device or
did say, how it worked...
It just vanished and he might just had cashed in a few
investor monies for it and then vanished ?

Why did nobody ask him about his old device and what came out of it ?

The new motor with the decreasing RPM just sounds to easy to be
any real working magnet motor...

How did he stop the motor again at the demonstration ?

Could anybody, who have seen it let us please know, how he stopped it ?
Did he loosen any cable outside or just stopped the shaft ?

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

[Omnibus]

Stefan.

I hear that Muammer Yildiz is going to present his motor somewhere in Germany. I thought you might be interested in attending. I am very curious to know what  your impressions are. Are you planning on attending?