Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor

[TinselKoala]

@DomIchi:
You are incorrect -- or at least very highly misleading -- in your statements about "the Minato motor". Minato has several patents, and what is being used in Japanese industry is a fan motor design based on repulsively oriented magnets _and electromagnets_ . His design has some advantages over "normal" electric fan motors but is in no sense a "free energy" machine or a self runner or something with "COP > 1". Like all other motors used in industry everywhere, it needs a power supply of conventional nature.
Here on this forum when a "Minato Motor" is talked about, generally what is meant is the "free energy" self-sustaining, all-permanent-magnet motor design of Minato, supposedly with no external power supply. This design is very much NOT in use in Japan for anything but entertaining children, and as anyone who has done real research can tell you, only "works" when the driving stator magnets are hand-held by the experimenter... and are powered perfectly normally by the experimenter's inadvertent hand motions from trying to hold the stator still.

As far as Duarte is concerned.... the burden of proof is on the presenter of these theories, not upon his detractors. When Yildiz allows his motor claims to be truly properly tested and they are found to be true by independent and _complete_ examination, that is the time to start formulating-- and testing scientifically-- theories of its operation. Not before the phenomenon is even confirmed to exist.
I can make up all kinds of theories about why my invisible pink unicorns are able to fly so stealthily and bring me my groceries.... is it then up to YOU to provide absolute proof before you tell me that this cannot be true, or are you just an Internet troll?

Have you ever done any hands-on research involving magnet motors, or any other type of motors? Can you give some links to your own work?

[DomiChi]

Have you ever done any hands-on research involving magnet motors, or any other type of motors? Can you give some links to your own work?

And you?
On free energy forum, I only see people only able to say that other projects are SCAM. But with nothing to let see, even a toy or a desktop thing staying animated during 4 days like M.Yildiz propose. M.Yildiz is far away

There is not only magnet or magnetism in OU energy, do you know Schauberger repulsine?
For now I was busy on vital energy then I make first my site on water memory and 5th dimension. As soon as I will have time to make something on my OU experiences, I will do it. But I am not in a hurry as it will be considered as SCAM, even if I do not want to sell anything.

is it then up to YOU to provide absolute proof before you tell me that this cannot be true

I never sayed it exists or not, i just like to see people beeing correct until Geneva Yildiz proof. Wait and see. If the Yildiz motor can run in the middle of a parking during 4 days without external electricity, for my need it is enough, and I will buy one of the first ones, if not too expensive. Having 4 days power without any noize, and no other power, it is a SCAM that I am ready to pay for this SCAM. Relaunching every 4 days is ok for me.

I can make up all kinds of theories about why my invisible pink unicorns are able to fly so stealthily and bring me my groceries.... is it then up to YOU to provide absolute proof before you tell me that this cannot be true, or are you just an Internet troll?

If you plan to let us see, I come, and I will not open your invisible pink unicorns (Is it invisible or pink?). If it is invisible I do not come.

[shadowpt]

Before saying that somebody is a liar, you have to bring proof. Otherwise you are just an Internet troll.
I you do not consider youself to be better than J. Duarte, you have to read http://www.bsmhturk.com/modelling-yildiz-motor.pdf. If you think that you are better, you have to say why?

I have seen his machine parts and the way it is all setup is a perendev variation with a simple spiral orientation, based on a scam from start already. Yildiz already invented a "miraculous" machine before (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_basraNod1Ms/S9H49iWBUOI/AAAAAAAABXo/ld1fijnTgWo/s1600/yildiz-prs.jpg) and surprisingly it never got far nor any scientific evidence that it worked as he claimed were brought to public. J.Duarte already looks and sounds like someone that is trying to oversell a product that doesn't meet half the expectations that he tries to claim and brazillians were already part of many previous scams in this field. The man even avoids answering directly to hard-proof questions people ask by quoting and telling how ridicule people might be while facing such a OU concept machine, so sorry if I don't take the word of a brazillian that acts like a politician when he has no excuse to be.

I never said I was better (don't even know how you got that idea unless you are trying to ridicule me without argumenting the points that I have previously stated) but I am not gonna fall for the "people have to put their skepticism aside if they want to believe that it actually works" so blindly, the entire man smells like scam since even before this machine and so far his actions have not helped to enforce his claims.

You told me previously that I shouldn't make some claims without some proof and now I tell you this, I am not your postmail, there are very long lasting and powerfull batteries in these days and if you want to know which ones then go use google ffs.

There are many videos on the web showing how a small motor can have lots of power with very small batteries, I have tried to find one specific but I am having hard time. Others are stargate motors which make a small motor more powerfull with magnets on its sides.

Want another kind of evidence how yildiz might be a big time scammer afterall? Guess who already made a very VERY similar motor before and people found out it was a scammer afterall www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvO9XMBZ4DI

If you truly believe that what yildiz says is true then why are you arguing with me? You clearly do not need my words to doubt anything but I have got to say, you really sound alot like someone that works for yildiz and is trying to do what JDuarte does, saying "it works" because people are skeptics, even though there is absolutely no hard evidence that it does work.

[DomiChi]

so sorry if I don't take the word of a brazillian that acts like a politician when he has no excuse to be.

The Duart how did the expertize is not Brasilian but Dutch, and he is professor in Delft University in Nederland.

why are you arguing with me? I am not arguing for Yildiz, but for better WEB forums. If Yildiz technology is a SCAM, I well want to know, but you cannot say that before the Geneva exhibition.  Even if it WAS a SCAM, perhaps now he has found the good settings, as he plan a lot of settings in his conception. And my small expérience has already see me that just a bad place magnet can broke the principle by creating a magnetic well.

[TinselKoala]

Quote from: TinselKoala on March 22, 2013, 07:15:00 PM

Have you ever done any hands-on research involving magnet motors, or any other type of motors? Can you give some links to your own work?

And you?
(snip)

That's pretty funny, DomiChi.... newbie.

How about this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgvFHejoQEk