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Overunity Machines Forum



Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor

Started by penno64, March 08, 2010, 03:02:32 AM

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MileHigh

Gwandau:

QuoteIt started at 2600 rpm, then went up in speed to 2673, then down and up that range for about 3 hours.

That whole story is consistent with a battery.  We know that a battery's voltage trypically increases after it has been driving a load for a while, hence the increase in RPM.  We also can expect that if it was a true free energy device, we might expect to see a constant RPM.  However, it's possible that as the bearings warm up the friction might go down which could explain the increase in RPM also.  I still think it's because of a battery voltage increase.

In the latter part of the description is looks like Yildiz was sleeping at the wheel.  I can only speculate that he didn't check or was unaware that his batteries were near the end of their charge-discharge life-cycle and could not power the motor for one full day.   Hence the disaster.

I will repeat that the claim that the fan load on the motor would be 380 watts is a bold-faced lie.  I don't buy the reference that Synchro made that he read about a "bigger motor with a larger fan" that could not be transported or get across the border.  There has never been any discussion of a "bigger motor" before.

All:

The stuff about the coins is just a silly distraction and Sterling is falling for it hook, line, and sinker.  There wasn't even a regular magnet nearby to compare with.  Also, the effect could be related to AC magnetic fields.  Not to mention the unknown metal mixture in the coins themselves.  The sad thing is that Sterling apparently believes that this is an "out of the ordinary effect."

Unfortunately we are left with this uncertain spectacle, and we can expect that for the next few days that Sterling will be a team player never seriously questioning all these problems with the people that are responsible for them.

Think of Sterling visiting South Africa and seeing a motor-generator contraption for 20 minutes and stating that he was "convinced."  Similar stories for his visits to Steorn and Inteligentry.  I can understand him not wanting to be confrontational with the people that he has to spend the next few days with, but just the same he could express his profound disappointment and then when he gets back home write an honest review of what transpired and then turn the page on Yildiz.   But that's just my take on it.

MileHigh

TinselKoala

Well, considering the best estimates for power dissipation (46 Watts at 2600 RPM, 23 at 2000 RPM, roughly) and the times, and the battery volumes necessary to store the energy, and the taken-apart motor at one of the previous demos immediately after running, I'd say that it is still not quite possible to rule _out_ a set of batteries concealed inside the motor itself. Barely. Six 3-musketeers bars or so of volume, minumum .... and we have to recall that he's been demoing this motor for years, so no bleeding-edge tech batteries in there, probably.... Of course also we don't know that the guts of the thing are the same as what was disassembled, although on the outside it looks the same pretty much.
So it boils down to runtime and RPM. We aren't going to find out how long it will run, because of the breakdown and the logical impossibility of taking the thing apart, replacing magnets and cleaning it and reassembling it before the demo is over.... even though he took it mostly apart in under ten minutes in that demo before. And there could just as easily be two reflective spots on the rear of the shaft, as one.

profitis

@gwandau.the temperature of the bearings on the motor was 1degree celcius above room temp?are they measuring the temp while the motor runs?

profitis

@tinselkoala ya it would be messy with infrared but at least we may be able to deduce if the motor body is generaly cooler or hotter than ambient.now gwandau claims they did in fact measure the temp at 23degrees c.if this is correct then i doubt that batteries are powering it as the chemical reactions should shoot the temp at least 5degrees celcius up above ambient 

profitis

also i noticed that stirling says that the only way to stop the motor is by clutching the shaft with your gloved hand,is this consistant with battery powered motors?