Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor

[DomiChi]

I am very curious to read that exact agreement, what exactly is being requested

They just ask that the part which are not allready patented stay secret. For me that seems justified as these parts will depend of industry agreements diversity. I had mail contact with Delft professor and he was not frustrated at all by these restrictions, he understands the Yildiz point of view. And me too, even if I'd like to do one my-self. But if you look at Minato wheel, you will find a lot less usefull information than on the Yildiz, and the Minato is already a product, not a pdf like Johnson motor with old HDD magnets.

[gyulasun]

Hi DomiChi,

Why do you say the Minato wheel is already a product?  Where is it sold, and for how much? Can you direct to a website?

Thanks,  Gyula

[DomiChi]

The Minatomotor is used in supermarket in Japan for climatisation and/or ventilation. I have seen pictures and vidéos but I have not the link. Google can find that for you.

[shadowpt]

It was already open in Delft in Nederlands (http://youtu.be/epLOEaoPMFU).
You have to apply 5th Toltec agreement "Be skeptical but Listen!". it is easy to spread doubt and rumors on the Internet. It will be less easy to stop them.
I advice you to practice all the 5 agreements, we will have a better Internet and society.
If you look at this topic http://www.magnetosynergie.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=1605, at message N° 5 you will see that we have a member how will go in Geneva to see. Sorry its in French, but google can translate.

Like I said, the agreement is to deny the testers the opportunity to REALLY check if there isn't any motor and batteries in the only part that is never opened. It has already been known that the machine is symmetric all around, what is the problem of showing the bottom half if it is exactly the same as the top one?

They could instead make an agreement stating that any part of the machine that is not yet pattented should not be disclosed to anyone else, so the testing team can actually verify that it is not a scam. Instead they make a shady agreement and that right there proves that it is a scam. No wonder why they refused to test it.

Tell that member to not waste his time, Yildiz will not let him see the bottom half of the machine or do anything worthwhile to clean the scam stamp.

[DomiChi]

Tell that member to not waste his time, Yildiz will not let him see the bottom half of the machine or do anything worthwhile to clean the scam stamp.

I feel our member a lot more positive than you. It is not correct to emit rumor without having read all existing information, and not take the offered opportunity to see yourself.
If you had read everything existing, you have known that the not open part of the machine is the part motor/generator. It is normal that his system needs a minimum speed to be an OU motor. I experienced the same thing on my own experiences. The difference is later, if the engine slows down or not after disconnecting the battery. And it is not the interesting part for OU. It is enough to disconnect the battery.
Also read http://www.bsmhturk.com/modelling-yildiz-motor.pdf
You should apply at least the fifth and third agreement from the five Tolthec agreements: Be septic but listen + don't make Assumptions (http://www.toltecspirit.com/)
Have you seen the videos. Have you try to imagine the size of a battery necessary to launch the engine and continue to run this fan. Have you read all the Delft professor comments. unless you also deny this prof credibility. For that I need more technical facts from you.
I suggest that you read http://pesn.com/2013/01/04/9602242_BSMH-Yildiz_All-Magnet-Motor_30-Day_University_Test_Pending/ until the end. Example:

That motor body will be 14 cm in diameter and about 21 cm long, and will be powering a 25 cm diameter fan. So do the math on how long it should run using any kind of known energy storage mechanism. I bet you will see two things: 1) it won't be able to run at a constant speed without diminishing, and 2) it won't be able to run for more than a few hours. So really, even one full day of demonstrating the technology running continuously should be more than enough to satisfy the scientists
But at the Geneva expo, Yildiz intends to demonstrate the motor running continuously for four days without stopping

From http://www.bsmhturk.com/modelling-yildiz-motor.pdf
it seems to be evident from the achieved results that the invention working principles go beyond a conventional technology based on hidden batteries to supply the necessary energy to run the motor.

"It is harder to crack a prejudice than an atom." -- Albert Einstein

What the Yildiz team has made to you that you want prejudice form them?
Me I just want to bye his 5kW motor, then I want that they accelerate the production process and not loose their time to justify them self.