Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor

[markdansie]

Hi Shadowpt
You forgot to mention Sterling  on another is fund raising effort  to recover $2500 extra expenses on the trip (he does not list them)
he has no choice but to list 35 reason why it must work or no one will give him funds.
Last year he took over $5000 for the South African Device and used it for his new house. people will always support him and people like Yilditz because they want to believe.
Look at JR he took over 1 million dollars before the police caught up with him.
Sterling gets commissions and benefits promoting these people, in many countries that would make him guilty.
Kind Regards
Mark

[DomiChi]

DomiChi
I worked and ran several sections of a university for many years. I also work with scientists and engineers with great reputations. All of us unanimously reject Yildtiz as a person not interested in the truth, or testing in manners acceptable by the greater community. He is interested in being the center of attention and scamming good people out of money. Sterling Allen is not much better.
So your speculation about peoples character has little value and shows your ignorance.
Have Yiltitz allow his motor to be tested in a professional way then you may have something to claim. until then this si just a waste of time.
Kind Regards
Mark

In your last posts I saw no proof, and you not have seen the Yildiz motor in Geneva like me.

[TinselKoala]

yo yo detruchos,relax senjor,you sound like a rabid priest,stick with the facts man,ther is absolute zero evidence of fraud here,and zero evidence of non-fraud,lets leave it at that ok?the demo sucked,other than that nobody knows shit.

I disagree. If we take the reports of the actual events as true, and combine that with other stuff we know is true, then there is some evidence that things are not as were initially represented by Yildiz, and also by Sterling Allen.

1. The motor was supposed to make several kilowatts, then it was supposed to make 380 watts..... then it was shown maxing out at (a claimed) 2600 RPM spinning a model airplane propeller, 16x10, that takes at most 60 watts, and probably more like 45, to spin at that rate. Power (torque) measurements were supposed to be performed... but were not.

2. The big motor was supposed to have run, first 5.5 hours, then 4.5 hours.... but the start time was 10:28 am and the stop time was 2:50 pm, according to Sterling. And for the last hour it ran considerably slower than 2600 RPM. Yet we have been told many times how robust and reliable this motor is... but nobody, not even Duarte, has seen it run for longer than 5 hours. Battery power from concealed batteries powering a simple pulse motor arrangement cannot be ruled out based on the events of the demo, and in fact this fits the observed facts better than what Yildiz claims.

3. On the evening of the first day, Yildiz showed up at the dinner table with some magnet pieces, claiming that they came from the motor. But the motor was still assembled that evening, and it was still assembled the next morning. But Yildiz claimed that it would take a day and a half to take it apart and put it back together. So how did he get those pieces out, and why didn't he just take the time and fix the damned thing? Instead, on the third or fourth night he stays up till 4 am trying to get the smaller motor to run. And fails to produce a running motor.

4. The Controller. What controller? We were told, initially, that the smaller motor could not be run because the Controller for it was in use on the big motor and there was no other Controller. If the smaller motor were started without the Controller it would speed up and destroy itself. But.... after the first motor failed, why not just take this Controller off and move it to the smaller motor and run _that_ motor in the parking lot, overnight in the Manger, all day long...... etc. But.... people can casually spin the smaller motor with that sharp fan blade and nothing happens. AND... now Sterling's moderator Stuart Campbell tells us that... wait for it.... THERE IS NO CONTROLLER, which makes sense because... we never saw any Controller, nobody ever mentioned any Controller before, no Controller in the disassembled... or rather half-disassembled motor at Delft.... there is no Controller in Yildiz's patent, etc.. And the smaller motor never ran, with or without any Controller.

So we have some clear evidence, I think, that we have been lied to. The motor does not and cannot make kilowatts of power, and in this demo only made a few tens of watts of power, and considering the power and the total run time and the decreasing RPM in the latter part of the run, this is entirely consistent with a battery-powered pulse motor, and certainly does NOT correspond to what Yildiz has claimed, including the claims made to get him invited to this convention in the first place.
The broken magnets are just too convenient an excuse. The smaller motor did nothing but distract the gullible. The tachometer measurements weren't even checked, and they are critical, because power dissipation of a fan goes as the _CUBE_ of the RPM.

I could go on, but I think that the points I've noted above do indeed provide evidence of conscious deception on the part of Yildiz and perhaps Allen, and they do indeed provide evidence that Yildiz cannot provide what he claims to provide, when rigorously examined.

[DomiChi]

In my career I had also contract with universities. If these Universities had not better confidential respect, I'd not only stop the contract but also asks lawyers interventions. If it's true, I understand that M.Yildiz will change validator to warrant confidentiality before patent.
And if it is true what you say, it is also a criterion to not choose these Universities as partner for others projects. That gives me a big doubt  about these people professionalism. Then about of the validity of these post.

I have other sound, as I write to Nederlands to say it is not serious:

Dear Dominique,
Someone is spreading misinformation (I think his pseudoname is Cazador Truchos).
Prof. Kling from TU Eindhoven I know personally, and he will never say it is a scam before talking to me.
Prof. Myrzik works at Dortmund, not in Delft, and so on.
As usual, a guy with a big ego is looking for sensation.
Regards,
-jorge

[shadowpt]

I have other sound, as I write to Nederlands to say it is not serious:

Ridiculing and twisting another person's words is always the way fools argument when they know they are wrong.