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Self running coil?

Started by gotoluc, March 13, 2010, 12:40:57 AM

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Magluvin

#365
March 28, 2010, 06:50:36 AM
So are we assuming that the magnet on the toroid only changes the inductance and has no other values compared to the big coil?  this seems like we are going backwards.


Mags

gravityblock

#366
March 28, 2010, 06:52:09 AM
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

gravityblock

#367
March 28, 2010, 07:05:40 AM
Quote from: Magluvin on March 28, 2010, 06:50:36 AM
So are we assuming that the magnet on the toroid only changes the inductance and has no other values compared to the big coil?  this seems like we are going backwards.


Mags

I think Luc's latest experiment shows the magnet on the toroid is doing more than just changing the inductance.  JLN's experiment on hystersis, shows the magnet on the toroid also decreases the hysteresis losses in a ferromagnetic core, http://jnaudin.free.fr/2SGen/indexen.htm#hysteresis

This is why I posted a publication a few days ago about certain ferromagnetic materials that have a near 0 residual magnetization, a near 0 coercive force, and a near 0 hysteresis loss (it only received a few downloads, lol).  These materials return back to a near "virginal state".  I will post a link to it again, http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=downfile&id=381
 
So, the magnet on the toroid, the core itself, and the windings are important. 

GB 
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

happyfunball

#368
March 28, 2010, 07:32:31 AM
Quote from: gravityblock on March 28, 2010, 07:05:40 AM

This is why I posted a publication a few days ago about certain ferromagnetic materials that have a near 0 residual magnetization, a near 0 coercive force, and a near 0 hysteresis loss (it only received a few downloads, lol).  These materials with a magnet on them, will always return the ferromagnetic material back to a near "virginal state".  I will post a link to it again, http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=downfile&id=381
 
So, the magnet on the toroid, the core itself, and the windings are important. 

GB

Can't get the link to work

It should be a fairly simple hypothesis to test, however, by direct comparison.

gravityblock

#369
March 28, 2010, 07:37:53 AM
Quote from: happyfunball on March 28, 2010, 07:32:31 AM
Can't get the link to work

It should be a fairly simple hypothesis to test, however, by direct comparison.

You're not the first person who says the link doesn't work, but the link does work for me though.

The publication can also be viewed or downloaded on Scribd (the ferromagnetic materials that return to a near virginal state are mentioned on the 12th page), http://www.scribd.com/doc/28789552/SURVEY-CHARACTERISTICS-AND-EVALUATION-OF-HIGH-PERFORMANCE-MAGNETIC-CORE-MATERIALS

GB

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.
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