Bruce's Discovery, Tesla's Missing Link for his Unipolar Generator!

[gravityblock]

Hi Bruce,

This pulley transmission concept of your friend's is pretty funny ;] I don't really understand people doing these things - how a hell do they want it to work ? Waste of time, machines, nerves etc. ;]

This is a waste of time, machines, nerves, etc..... but the below quote from you isn't? 

This is actually Tesla's patent but made in the other completelly wrong way.
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/0406968.pdf
Tesla's patent ("Dynamo Electric Machine") describes an arrangement of two parallel discs with separate, parallel shafts, joined like pulleys by a metallic belt. Each disc had a field that was the opposite of the other, so that the flow of current was from the one shaft to the disc edge, across the belt to the other disc edge and to that shaft. This would have greatly reduced the frictional losses caused by sliding contacts by allowing both electrical pickups to interface with the shafts of the two disks rather than at the shaft and a high-speed rim.
In the setup of yours you just have a greater friction - not lower ;] Anyway, both have nothing to do with OU ;]

Tesla's patent with the belt and pulleys is good, and is the right way, but the device from Bruce's friend using pulleys, is wrong and bad, LOL.  Your contradictory statements, bias, closed mindedness, attacks, taking things out of context, twisting words, etc.......are pretty funny, IMO.

GB

[gravityblock]

@Bruce:

Steorn may be using a bearing at the top/bottom of the shaft, then using neodymium ring magnets to eliminate most of the thrust and radial loads on the bearings to reduce the friction.  The bearings are for stability only.  Since the eOrbo is a low torque system, then the shaft doesn't make much contact with these bearings.

Have another look at Steorn's ZeroF page, it's been updated, http://www.steorn.com/steornlab/zerof/

You'll notice the ZeroF is a hybrid system.  "The use of permanent magnets reduces necessary shaft contact with the bearing elements, thereby resulting in a much lower friction coefficient".

Here's a good video showing the concept http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vzzbxMIITE  At the end of the video, it says the shaft is in a 3mm bearing on the topcap.  This is in agreement with the hybrid ZeroF from Steorn.

GB

[Airstriker]

This is a waste of time, machines, nerves, etc..... but the below A from you isn't? 

Tesla's patent with the belt and pulleys is good, and is the right way, but the device from Bruce's friend using pulleys, is wrong and bad, LOL.  Your contradictory statements, bias, closed mindedness, attacks, taking things out of context, twisting words, etc.......are pretty funny, IMO.

GB

no not again you...please. Where is your troll spray ?

[Bruce_TPU]

@Bruce:

Steorn may be using a bearing at the top/bottom of the shaft, then using neodymium ring magnets to eliminate most of the thrust and radial loads on the bearings to reduce the friction.  The bearings are for stability only.  Since the eOrbo is a low torque system, then the shaft doesn't make much contact with these bearings.

Have another look at Steorn's ZeroF page, it's been updated, http://www.steorn.com/steornlab/zerof/

You'll notice the ZeroF is a hybrid system.  "The use of permanent magnets reduces necessary shaft contact with the bearing elements, thereby resulting in a much lower friction coefficient".

Here's a good video showing the concept http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vzzbxMIITE  At the end of the video, it says the shaft is in a 3mm bearing on the topcap.  This is in agreement with the hybrid ZeroF from Steorn.

GB

Good stuff GB.  Yes, their ZeroF's sound nice, if they would only start to sell them...LOL  I will eventually try to figure out something, I am just not there yet...but hope to be soon!

@ ALL,
I have received my riveted pieces today and they did an awesome job!  I did find out to my amazement that they have a machine there that can cut a perfect circle from any electrically conductive material, in about 10 seconds.  They can cut up to 4 foot circles...!!  I am sticking to my 10" circles though but am VERY happy that I can upgrade to a massive size, should results warrant, in the future.

I have also come to the conclusion that I will have painted, all of my pieces.  I know someone who paint's cars and will take it to them for a proffessional job.  This will make it non-electrically conductive and avoid eddy currents of any kind.  I will have the shaft and all metal pieces painted. 

Below are the pictures of where I am at...

By the way, this small pulley is just to give something for rivets to attach to the plate and to allow the shaft to be attached in a non permanent way.  It has set screws to hold it.  I do plan on using pulleys, but that is a ways out also, so it is not fully thought out.

Cheers,

Bruce

[gravityblock]

I have also come to the conclusion that I will have painted, all of my pieces.  I know someone who paint's cars and will take it to them for a proffessional job.  This will make it non-electrically conductive and avoid eddy currents of any kind.  I will have the shaft and all metal pieces painted. 

Cheers,

Bruce

Not a bad idea after following Butch LaFonte's thread on his excellent magnetic switcher.  I reached this same conclusion after reading his thread.  Also, those riveted pieces look really good.  Very professional looking.  Thanks for keeping us updated.

I think the 3mm bearing at the topcap may be a jewel bearing for a very low friction point.  The concept isn't much different than the one friction point you've been working on and the videos on youtube.

GB