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TIME FOR A REAL OPEN SOURCE PROJECT

Started by wwzmach, March 28, 2010, 04:25:51 AM

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wwzmach

The problem with the whole free energy community is there are just too many ideas, too much misinformation, so much rumor and stupidity, its a bad joke.

What is needed is a real true open source effort much like what is made with the linux operating system and other computer based projects. They have managed to challege the Windows Monopoly and infact Apple is now based on it and most web servers run it, so it could be argued that open source is more than 50% of the computing world. Where as not long ago it was a total mess, hundreds of different companies and no standards etc. Then became dominated by microsoft and finally open source has pretty much taken over all but personal computing.

Its the same in Free Energy.... the only way to really challenge the monopoly of the power companies and current system is with a huge open source effort.

I am interested in finding like minded people that don't want to talk about rumors and mess about on forums, but who want to actually start putting together information, making experiments and following a specific line of thought. As the project grows there is a budget available to fund it. Money and hardware is not an issue here.

Rule no#1 If you don't like this posting and or you don't have anything intelligent to add, please find elsewhere to jawbone... thanks :-)

The first task is to find an area to focus on, doesn't have to be the best or the most complicated, all we want is some power........

From what I have seen so far, its pretty clear that the best path to follow is going to be along the lines of Tesla and Moray's radiant energy.

1.) Radiant Energy Clearly exists in some form or other, and it could be agued that many more complex systems involving magnets, motors etc. are actually tapping into radiant energy in a more complex way. So keep it simple stupid !.

2.) There are no moving parts, complex engineering, bearings, high cost magnets etc. needed, great !

3.) The system doesn't need power to start with, its not much good having a free energy device that needs to be plugged into the grid or a bank of car batteries to start it up is it now  doh !...... at the very least it can confuse your readings and make a fool out of you.

4.) It avoids alot of the garden shed enthusiasts who think a few magnets will give you free power. There are so many many many magnet motors and I have never seen one that is anything but bunk.

5.) In the long run some kind of system that operates on harmonics, oscilations, radiant energy on an electronic / sub atomic level is going to be far more likely to suceed that focusing on spinning motors and magnets and wheels etc.

6.) I don't think free energy actually exists. I think most likely there are quantum mechanics and universal harmonics and sub atomic goings on that we can tap into and much like a water wheel or a solar panel, the correct technology can harness a motion and produce a lot of energy.

If I showed you a solar panel and you didn't know sunlight could be harnessed you'd think I was showing you a free energy system. If I have a warehouse full of generators making hundreds of Kw, but you didn't realise it was hooked up to the hoover dam, well again, you'd probably write me off as a free energy nut.

Cavemen managed to light fires for themselves without understanding the processes of combustion, or the molecular structure of air or the bioorganic contents of wood.

Therefore with some experimentation I am certain we can learn to do what Moray and Tesla did and tap into the sub atomic world, harness the energetic streams of the universe, and it won't be a free energy machine, it will be a water wheel, a wind mill or a solar panel only on a sub atomic / quantum / electronic level.

Leave the nutters with billion dollar budgets and 50 years to waste on the LHC to figure out how it all works, frankly its of no importance.

So anyone that follows my train of thought, drop me a line and lets start putting something together, trying to contact other groups who have made experiments, seeing what has been done so far and seeing where we can make some inroads into this exciting field.

Oh and btw. if anyone has a magnet motor that really works, buy me an airline ticket to come and see it, and i will pay you $1 million dollars in cash, no messing about, clear and simple.

Red

I understand what you are saying but if you think Linux is a sea of collaboration and love you are sadly mistaken. Most people here are doing a fine job. Some a realists, some a rationals, some have great math skills, others electrical engineering skills, some are chemists, some are mechanics and physicists.

Under Linux, they are programmers of varying skills, designers of varying methodology but in no way is it any less complicated. Some work in their own projects - GIMP and Inkscape. Others try something new like PiTiVi or freakishly advanced stuff like Kernel engineering and file systems. There are over 80 different Linux versions and all of them have particular advantages and flaws but none of them are less secure than windows which is a bloated, ugly POS that has no democracy at all. 

Here its different strokes for different folks too. Some want gases, some want magnets and others want resonant circuits. Each will make discoveries and advances as they go and I am keenly watching each one progress. The greater pool will focus interest and share ideas but that is all "open source" is. Collaboration and the sharing or contribution of ideas.
You can't demand we all stop what we are doing and down tools, aint gonna happen.

For me its about discovery and something I love more than anything - this planet!

I come here and see progress all the time, the weeding out of fakes through good observation and the exploration of things people just had no idea or concept of. Magnets as motors? common right?

Actually I know it can work because we live on one! Its a giant electron induction engine that through physics produces an almighty gravitational field and its been doing it for 6 billion years. I know something is achievable its just a matter of how and when.

Life is about exploring and discovery, not following someone else's dogma, rules and preset notions of what is and what should be.

This place is doing just fine. Pick your thing, your skills and knowledge will determine what you follow. Take that path and keep thinking, keep working and keep expanding your skills and understanding. That is what science has done anywhere it can and some great names are legacy of that route.

I am not an "inventor" but I do have imagination to be one. I cannot go out into my shed and make stuff because I have to pay bills and not buy tools. I am a programmer, designer for simple stuff like web sites and mostly enjoy building computers but my greatest passion is science and ecology so if and when something does come along that can assist with technically I will step in and add my 2 cents. Through others I have seen great discoveries both here and at PES. As a human who loves this planet I am also glad to see so many for reasons only they understand persue something which is important to both humanity at large and science in general.

No one is doing a thing wrong and my learning and understanding of what can be achieved has expanded greatly and it has given me a positive view on life coming into the future facing the many troubling aspects we face today. I believe most people care nothing about it, that's fine let them be. I also believe just a few good ideas from a few good people will make the biggest of differences and it might start here, you never know.

Gas from garbage is not "free energy" but its one hell of a bushiness model. You would not think of that unless you were visiting forums like this. Just how do you get 6 types of fuel from garbage and burn each one in stages and get a 120% energetic gain using a giant water tank? Such a process leaves coal in its wake. I know how I can do that, do you? Thing is, that understanding started right here many years ago and It might be something I will pursue if I can get the finances. Its not free energy, but it works better than a bloody great hole in the ground and its scalable to fit a backyard to a landscape size. If you go on you tube and other forums, the collaboration is in 138 languages just for that and its making the biggest difference everywhere! The information age is already working and its only been 25 years. In so many ways its why Linux is now in phones along with Apple and Microsoft and its not just an OS, its outrageously awesome!

People do what they do because they love it, so honer them...

As for magnet motors which you are welcome to disagree with, UoM recently discovered iron nitride compounds make magnets 18%  stronger than neodymium and Neo magnets are just the funnest toys....


http://www.physorg.com/news188458077.html

wwzmach

its pretty sad that this is the only response i get, shows what a bunch of egoists are out there

like i said mate.... if you don't have anything useful to add, keep your pie hole shut........ no room for jaw boning opinionists here... you stick with your burning trash pile it sounds great.

Red

It sure makes a lot of money for people with excess garbage Mr Troll man

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2000 chickens
=
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@ 8 cents / kwh you are milking money from shit, enjoy... ;D


conradelektro

To wwzmach and other mostly silent readers!

Having waded through some subjects (threats) in the overunity.com forum I am not amused by the many useless posts (which I estimate to be up to 95%).

Looking at all the subjects and boards (just the titles) it is hard to find something that would be worth some real effort. Whenever one digs into an interesting sounding subject, it quickly becomes obvious that there is no substance or a scam.

Schematics: in all subjects (threats) I looked it is a real problem to find useful and clear schematics (which could be replicated straight away). The reason is an unwillingness of almost all posters to document clearly what they are doing and the extreme high number of senseless posts (which one has to read at least partially to find out that they are useless).

It is also amazing how many totally useless videos are advertised in the subjects (threats). One sees someone fiddling with a contraption and it is absolutely not clear which circuit and components are used to produce the mysterious effect. "Look what I have got but I do not tell what it is!"

A worth wile open source project:

What I would like to do (and I would like to get some help from likeminded people) is to wade through the Joule Thief related posts and to collect usefull schematics (circuits). Some Joule Thief ideas seem to be useful and worth wile to replicate and to experiment with. It is nice to be able to use up almost empty batteries in some sort of flashlight (driving LEDs or even certain gas discharge lamps). But one has to dig out a few pearls from thousands of Freudian posts.

Greetings, Conrad