GBluer(Slayer) Exiter

[woopy]

hi all

back to work

here some more testing

1-  as Slayer 007 said some time ago, i  tried to wound the L2 coil with a  single copper wire with plastic insulation of 0.8 mm in pancake organisaation.

2-  i could get the plasma arc at the end of the free L1 coil easily with about 7.5 volts.

3 so i decided to try the Avramenko electrolisis

4 and it works nicely


so my question 

how is it possible to get electrolisis from thi set up ?

second    the N2222 get very hot    how can we do to scale up this arrangement to test more ppowerfull electrolisis?

all the best to you

Laurent

[conradelektro]

@ Laurent (woopy)

I think that one should use the transistor (Darlington Pair) TIP142 which has a high DC current gain (hFE from 500 to 1000). I ordered some because I want to try it for several Joule Thief Variants. The advantage should be a low base current in spite of a strong current through collector - emitter, which keeps the temperature of the transistor down (although one might need a heat sink any way when driving the circuit with higher voltages like you do).

In your circuit (with the transistor 2N2222) I would use a 20 pF capacitor instead of the 200 pF. This should reduce the current over collector - emitter of the 2N2222 and such lower its temperature. But it might stop the electrolysis (because the output of the tower coil will also be reduced). Slayer showed this "power reduction or increase" in his latest video with a 12 Volt power supply by trimming the capacitor.


@ Slayer

I know you recommend the 2N2222 in combination with the MPSA06. Did you ever try a Darlington Pair (a transistor which is internally a Darlington Pair like the TIP142 or the BD681) ?

What happens (your latest circuit, trim capacitor, 1 M resistor) if I would connect a CFL or FL over the tower coil? (On pole of the lamp is connected by wire to the top end of the tower coil and the second pole of the lamp is connected by wire to the beginning of the tower coil which is also the base of the transistors.)

Would this brighten the lamp (in comparison to holding it near the coil without any wire connection as you often do in your videos)?

Would this reduce the radiation?

Would this stop the circuit swinging?

In your videos you sometimes touch the wire on the top end of the tower coil with a lamp or the LEDs, but you never make a connection to the beginning of the tower coil?

Greetings, Conrad

[woopy]

Hi Conrad

Thanks for response and proposal

I tried a BD 677 darlington, it works but in a specific voltage. And it get also hot. Will do more test this weekend

Good luck

Laurent

[slayer007]

@ Woopy

Thanks for posting your results.
You may want to try running your setup with just the MPSA06 transistors.With 12v or more the 2N2222 are still easy to burn out.
Also a Variable capacitor will help with the current intake and tuning along with tuning the L2 coil to the right spot.

@  Conrad

I have tried quite a few transistors including a darlington Pair.So far the best transistor for this circuit is the MPSA06 with the 2N2222 the second best.

I only left the 2N2222 transistor in the circuit diagram because if your using a smaller coil it is hard to get this to start without the 2N2222 transistor.
But people using bigger coils with 12v or more should just use one or two MPSA06 transistors in this circuit.

[slayer007]

This video is to show how you can use two diodes and one LED for a indicator light for your exiter.
It helps with tunning and hepls protect the A.

Dr Stiffler uses it in his SEC 18 series and it also works very good with this circuit.


In the video the 1M resistor is disconnected.It is no longer needed if using over 1v.
And I also have one coil connected to the negative battery post.

Here is the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naN-cLCgDyY