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One ring to control them all

Started by Cherryman, April 13, 2010, 07:29:33 AM

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Cherryman

Need some advice.

I get frustrated by a simple spark!

First i tried Piezo.. unreliable...

Now i tried a battery powered BBQ sparker.

This is what happens:

- Out of chamber test:  Oké good spark

- In chamber test..  No or rare spark

- Now the funny part: When i connect the wires NO spark in the gap..  Just before i connect the wires i get two sparks!  One where i come close to the connection, the other at the gap ??

connected > nothing between gap

Almost connected>  two sparks (At connection and at gap simultanisly)



Anyone?


Edit:

Fixed!  Not sure what it caused, but it seems solved:

Nice sparkling ;-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4aVkDPQEgk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJqdR5jpl1c

innovation_station

nice   the spark as i have seen from a bbq unit is diffrent than most sparks people have been playing with ..

it is cold .. verry cold .. has little power to it .. unlike most of my sparkie things ..  it will bite you tho ... but it is a poor way to charge caps .. or not good to be rectified .. it is designed to ingnite gas ..

i will make a video showing my compleate bbq sparker .. it shoots a spark  .5 " or so .. this can be found at canadian tire stores for 15 bucks .. fits all bbq's

it is an after market starter ..

cherryman have you ever had your cell blow up ?  useing your configuration ..  i have had explosions in the past ..  where things got to flying round the room ... 

so i do agree it is best to have the unit all as 1  so the excess gas is burnt each and every fire ..

ist

im finishing the wheel and finding the bbq igniter  i will shoot a video at some point showing the unit ..

are you running a weak battery ?  this may cause the transistor in the bbq liter to miss fire ..

similar to a jt on  a dead battery... 

or there a few conculsions i could draw but with the limited info .. this is my best guess !
To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!

Cherryman

Quote from: innovation_station on May 03, 2010, 09:09:28 AM


cherryman have you ever had your cell blow up ?  useing your configuration ..  i have had explosions in the past ..  where things got to flying round the room ... 



I still have some problems with the spark it seems..  Now i got some better insulated wire, maybe that helpes.

About the cell explosion..  well.. every time! ;-)  hahaha

But i know what you say.  And i have not yet had a flying around of stuff.  I did however got some surprisingly loud bang.

To avoid  that i use some safety:

- Soft materials (Hoses)
- I keep a max of 5 minutes to build up gases. 
- In testing fase i use tape or microwave foil to seal the cell  (It makes a good explosion "valve"
- Detonation from a distance ( I have one meter..and it still scares me sometimes ;-)

- I was thinking a safety valve  ( Make a hole in the detonation chamber and stretch an innertube of a tire around it real tied.  If the pressure is to high, it will open up to release some pressure.  (But as usual i'm exploding first, safety later ;-) 

When i can get a kind of "stable" explosion, i will start closing the ring.. 

This build is just a proof of concept.  When it works and still has maritt and fun..  I will build a final one.

innovation_station

my hho cells are designed to produce more hydgron than oxy ...  : )

as per my designs ... it is VERRY POWERFULL STUFF ! 

NOT YOUR NORMAL CELL !

SO WHEN I BANG IT ... IT BANGS BAD !   IT DONT GO POOF IT GOES BBBBBAAAAAANNNNNGGGGGGG

IST


I DONT USE ELECTROLITTE ...  I DID A DEMO IN THE CITY A FEW YEARS BACK ..   i used the city water and because of the clorine it was soooo  lould ..  i had  people turn there heads for blocks .. to see what was going on ... 

To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!