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Some thoughts on oil

Started by angryScientist, April 19, 2010, 10:06:15 PM

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  The oil we burn consists of carbon bonded to hydrogen.  When oxygen takes the place of the hydrogen the hydrogen is liberated which then combines with more oxygen to form water.  Both carbon dioxide and water are as low as you can get for molecular bond energy state.  They are like a truck that is totally at rest.  Plants take carbon dioxide and use electromagnetic energy to release the carbon and hydrogen atoms to form cell walls and simple sugars are formed.  These simple sugars now have the hydrogen bonded to the carbon which represents about 8 percent of the electromagnetic wave energy that the plant first trapped.  Our solar collectors are now more than 20percent efficient so that man is better at trapping sunlight than plants.  Add this to high efficiency electrolysis of water and who needs oil and for that matter biodiesel or any other carbon based fuel scource.  We just need some global effort to change some sand into solar panels and turn the deserts of the world into energy collectors instead of worthless wasteland.
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 yes  hydrocarbons are not fossil fuels as fossil fuels exist on titan, a moon in our solar system...this this theory has more merit than most .the question remains at what rate hydrocarbons are renewed in the sustainable cycle of energy creation....

gauschor

My thoughts in here too:
Thinking about oil as a most important resource for energy I wonder why companies are not using vegetable oil - considering that the very first Diesel engines were designed for these kinds of oil. Also these vegetable oils are renewable and science institutions confirm that equal amount of CO2 being produced is absorbed from the plants you extract the oil. All one needs to do is creating large plantations of oilseed rape etc. - of course really large plantations, or you remove a lot of cars (which is necessary as well, since there is enough ways of public transport, and there is really no need for people to drive 200meters with a car because of shopping...

The only weakness is the burning temperature of vegetable oil (however mostly in winter), but there should be enough ways to eliminate this problem. I think this energy source would currently provide a faster solution than research in producing "hydrogen on demand"...

Cloxxki

We consume too much oil to ever get it from above the surface. Or we'd have to give up eating. There is not enough land surface on the Earth to house 7 billion, farm their food AND their oil.
Burning oil is so 1900. It's inefficient and wasteful. CO2 being the exception to the rule, plants can do good things with that.

I never understood the pressure supposedly creating our oil. But the BP rig obviously just puled the plug from a very large high pressure chamber. Perhaps the oil being of lower density than the material it was formed of, is creating this pressure, rather than the deposites of millions of years of vegetation.

If oil were to be found renewable (they do keep finding and finding new fields), that'd be bad news. Even more reason to suppress new fuel technologies, or even engines that actually take out a majority of the energy stored in the oil. Cars have not significantly improved fuel economy over the past decades. It's not like the car engine is set in stone like the basic bicycle. The double triangle can barely be improved upon, but the car engine, is like a Fred Flintstone device...