Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !

[Omnibus]

I hate to correct people on terminology but I'll say it for the sake of those who might want to use it correctly -- it's non-stoichiometric and not non-stochastic. Stoichiometry is the proportion set in stone between the moles of reactants and the products given by a chemical (electrochemical) reaction. Stoichiometry is an expression of one of the basic laws of Chemistry -- the law of constant proportions and has nothing to do with stochastics -- the area of mathematics which studies random processes and probabilities therefrom.

Now about the essence -- what is GenSet ICE conversion to hydrogen?

[Omnibus]

OK, I got it. The search engines help in such cases. Now the question is can one find much smaller and less noisy GenSet? What's the smallest one can find? A laboratory experiment doesn't need those clunky industrial type motor-generators.

[Omnibus]

Mark Coffman
quote:

So the magic, if there is any here, is in the Anton electrolyser
cells themselves about which I know little.
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Gotta be something special somewhere!
This has been tried a thousand times a thousand different ways!

Chet

Of course, the pivotal element is the electrolysis cell. It should be exceptionally efficient to the point of being unbelievable. That's why I was asking Stefan if they claim in the film (not knowing German is a drag) violation of Faraday's laws of electrolysis when measuring the volume of the gas evolved. Another option is to observe a GenSet becoming more efficient when the stoichiometric 2:1 mixture becomes non-stoichiometric 4:1 or 5:1 (hydrogen:oxygen). That is to be expected because it is exactly the hydrogen that is the fuel. However, where do we get this hydrogen from since the very production of the gas mixture is necessarily stoichiometric. Unless someone can demonstrate that stoichiometry, that is the basic laws of chemistry don't hold any more (well, recall superconductivity--it is based on non-stoichiometric ceramic materials).

So, @ramset, you're saying that feeding of a GenSet by a hydrogen-oxygen mixture has been tried before, correct? Do you have any reference?

[hartiberlin]

Some more infos from Oliver translated into English:

The problems that still exist and thus it needs 4 hands to control it all:

1st There are no load-and speed-control
   in the ignition, exhaust gas recirculation, cooling, air, steam and gas supply.
2nd The engine is the cheapest of the cheapest available, just a cheap chinese
motor-generator and is far too "nervous."
3rd The generator part of it is also one of the cheapest.
4th The used switching power supply is not suitable to process irregular 220 Volts AC frequencies.
5th The pressure regulator or gas buffer must be  improved.
6th A clever mixing chamber to swirl and a venturi system must be found.
7th The valve control is "crap delivered from the factory", so it still must be modified.
6th Air cooling is crap, because heat can not be recycled.
7th All in all, only a "proof of concept" demo..
.... etc.

We first wanted to see and research the main  principle, and therefore,
to understand the previously seen videos on the Internet and see
if it could be replicated.

There is still much to do, but we need  "doers" come into play.



@ Stefan
I have switched off because the speed was too high and we had no desire to
kill the powersupply or to break the engine. The LED display of the power supply was wrong
(Probably because of the unregulated power frequency of the generator?)

We needed  approximately 6L HHO gas at about 800 - 900 Watts input
in the test with the lamps and drill.

The exact values we will still have to measure again,
but we can not work too often in the office, cause it is very loud !

The neighbors don´t have much understanding for running a loud water motor and we
need their patience and don´t want to make them angry...

We need a silent Perpetuum Mobile ! 

[Rapadura]

Neighbors upset about noise delay the development of science!

He has to tell his neighbors that they will soon run their cars on water! This could increase their patience!