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Overunity Machines Forum



Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !

Started by hartiberlin, April 25, 2010, 02:33:30 AM

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vrand

Quote from: haithar on May 11, 2010, 07:45:04 AM
Source pls, would like to read the paper :)

Here's what we really know:
- Engine runs on electrolysed water (H2 and O2)
- The engine keeps on running 40 seconds after the outside power was switched off

Nothing more. It's also only a claim to say that 2.5Wh/l of split water is not overunity, because the material is important in the electrolysis process, only the needed charge is independant of material (although i know this is not "overunity", but i just wished people would be more cautious with their statements)

That video was just a proof of concept that they could also power loads, while powering the HHO cell.

They stated that they also ran the genset for hours, without additional loads, but only powering the Anton cells, and using the heat of the exhaust to heat their office.

Heating an office using only water is OU in my book   ;D

markdansie

The 40 seconds could be using up the gases already in the system combined with some new gas generated until the combined amounts are exhausted.
I do like the direct injection in the head that could help with some efficency and make better use of fractional hydrogen events (i there are some)
2.5 watts per litre is one of the better ons but as explained not overunity. many other cells can get that with most commercial ones at around 2.8 to 3 watt per litre.
With the load tests its better to actually have the loads measured.
Kind Regards
Mark

haithar

Quote from: vrand on May 11, 2010, 08:43:23 PM
They stated that they also ran the genset for hours, without additional loads, but only powering the Anton cells, and using the heat of the exhaust to heat their office.
Yes if that's correct it changes the situation of course. I didn't read this anywhere, do you have the quote please?  :)

markdansie

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Yes if that's correct it changes the situation of course. I didn't read this anywhere, do you have the quote please?  :)
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I agree fully that I have not read this anywhere and if they can demonstrate that then its a whole new ballgame. As previously metioned their cell is not unlike many others that have been built (including the plate gaps) so if there is anybreak through it is how they did the hydrogen into the engine.
A 40 second test is not long enough. I have seen a huge v8 pickup truck run on HHO (idling) until the battery went flat (which didn't take long) i have also seen engines run up to a minute or more just n the gas stored in the system combined with the new gas being generated.
I am happy to be open minded about this and if they do as claimed to provide engineers to help verify the tests. Without third party validation all they have is a statement.
Kind Regard
Mark

Alchemist

What kind of electronics does this Anton cell configuration require. I understand theres no need for a toroidal transformer as in Boyce's design, is that correct?
Do you still need a PWM circuit?