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Started by tpu, May 10, 2010, 10:57:06 AM

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tsl

hey there,
nice design.by using the transmission line approach you generate the desired frequencies without the use of any fancy external signal generators.nice one  ;)

Sprocket

Hi tpu.  From my armchair-perspective your theory seems quite logical.  Having also read most of the TPU threads here, I've gotta say I don't recall anyone having suggested the use of spark gaps to generate the 'kicks'.  There are a few other theories being actively explored here atm that also seem 'reasonable' - wattsup/GK Bloch Wall & BruceTPU's antenna idea come to mind.  Dunno if you've seen the below video by the WITTS group.  I've just seen it, nothing special to watch, another TPU-of-sorts.  What caught my eye was the date it was made - 1993!  It's only been released now though...  Personally, I'm convinced that there are LOTS of working TPU's out there...

http://www.youtube.com/user/theENERGYDREAM#p/u/2/zS4D-qjWuQg

Tito L. Oracion

Quote from: tpu on May 10, 2010, 10:57:06 AM
Hello to all out there,
I'm new to this story but after reading much of it ( allmost all ) and seeing all the public available videos i think i have something to say.
First i want to thank all of you great builders who don't gave up after so much invested time and efforts.
Anyway in order not to be too sentimental here i'll make it short.This is/was one of the most intriguing (for me) passages i have found here. many thanks @tao.
Then there was another one more recently by the user tls about transmission line pulse forming networks.
So my half backed idea was to combine the 2 and see what it comes out.
as one can see in the attached picture there are no electronics involved yet.it's just a simple draft in order to see what you guys think about it. so the TL1-3 are transmission lines made around the collector from lamp cord( bifilar winding), SG=spark gap. now to the function, i would imagine that if: TL1 is made so that the pulse length corespond with the resonant frequency of the collector,TL2 to the double freq and TL3 to the double of f2 and they are all positioned as required and the length of the collector would be a quarter wave antenna for the resonant freq f0, then ... when the first spark gap ignites a pulse is rushing toward TL2 section triggering the second spark gap that would initiate the second pulse witch  will amplify the first pulse and together rushing toward TL3 section triggering the spark gap there initiating the 3rd pulse and so at the and we could get a standing wave forming inside the collector(actually around) with ever growing(raising) amplitude .use your imagination to substitute the spark gaps with ss switches
will it work?
or
the collector is not a open toroid (coil ) but a closed one (a ring ) and the length of the circumference is exactly the wave length and so there are 2 zero points 1 point for max positive and one point for max negative on the ring( formed by the standing wave).

edit
i think i was just a bit wrong about the freqs.the pulse length for TL1 should be 1 quarter from f0 and so on if the collector is made to be one quarter from the f0
anyway i'm awaiting your feedback.


hi! You have a good point  :)

Here is what i know, steven converting small kicks into a big kick and then i think when it is in a big kick state then your design is the next circuit to apply.  :)

tpu

hello all,
first thank you all for your replies.
i know that pulse forming networks and transmission line theory are not my strength but i do think that this design could work.the only problem with it: i have no clue how or why this would be ou.the tuning would be also a pain in the asss.to tune it the isolator between the collector and the coils and the length of those would be important.also in my design there are only 3 control coils, the tpu have 4(?).questions and more questions....