Self-Runner // Gary Wesley's Motor // Torbay

[silverdragonrs]

i haven't yet looked at the site or titter totter device but i think a lot of people are over complicating the torbay motor. once youve gotten past the blurry images and all the argueing the torbay motor is really simple and not hard to build. the ahrdest part is finding parts ans such.

as for finding something simple i agree starting at the bottom and working your way up is always the way to go.

as to why there are few replicas of other devices it is because very few ideas work the way they are drawn out. compremises and alterations last minte changes are all put into it as it is being manufactured. these details are often forgotten and or left out of the published design. torbays motor is one of the first that i have seen several versions of the same concept broken down to be analysed. the only missfortune there is the bad photography and lack of US press coverage.

also alot of devices like this are created just by messing around in the garage by some guy who knows very little about what hes doing. and once he creates it he doesnt know how he did it and can never do it again. again torbay is the first i have seen to even replicate his own design and create several working versions of the same device.

as to the wearing down of parts - think of all the money one would save by not paying for electricity in the car or house and such..... if the motor wears out two years later and you only paid 500 dollars for it then your in good shape, just get another one.

the important thing to do is to find a simple design that works and that lasts more than an hour or so and improve upon it over and over again.

no matter what you find online or in the paper you can not believe it works untill you see it yourself. on the same note you can not discredit anything that you have not seen fail. i have read over and over people saying that i dont see it work so on. and it is up to the creater to prove it works! my butt! it is up to you to prove it does not work! as in snyders case he has taken the first step in releasing a video. he at this point has more evedence that his device works than anyone else has to the contrary.

in a feild such as this when a new device is descovered every couple of years there is no room for sceptics. if there was a device created every day then perhaps some level of caution would be in order. but to toss down an idea out of hearsay or oppinion scientific or not is wrong. attitudes like this are what hold everything back.

i don't know who said this but it is true.

"What science holds as the basics today were yesterdays impossablities. imagine what is impossable today that will be basic tommorrow?"

in other words just because you read it someplace or its a "law" or physics or what not do not rule it out because new things are discovered every day! and old laws are over written by new ones.

I believe that these motors are around. I believe that they are hard to reproduce do to lack of forplanning/research/ ond or publicity.

in the case of torbay i believe that he went public prematurely. he was not prepared and did not have a schematic drawn up yet. also alot is lost in translation of what we could find.

I think this forum has done very well in "figuring" it out with what little rescourses it had.

I beleive that to take a step back at this point would be wrong.

i think we should continue with the torbay device. and give wesley's motor a try as well.

I am sorry for the %$#%^ fest/ been a long day and i been holding that in through out the torbay thread. all those people saying it wouldn't work got under my skin!

thanks,
danny

[Lynxis]

I think this forum has done very well in "figuring" it out with what little rescourses it had.

I beleive that to take a step back at this point would be wrong.

i think we should continue with the torbay device. and give wesley's motor a try as well.

I am sorry for the %$#%^ fest/ been a long day and i been holding that in through out the torbay thread. all those people saying it wouldn't work got under my skin!

thanks,
danny

I'm fully behind demystifying and attempting to replicate the Torbay device...
The Wesley motor (and the relevant materials written by Wesley) might also help shed some light
on the Torbay design.

I appreciate what you wrote!

[Nastrand2000]

@silverdragons,

I believe your design on the torby motor is correct(as we understand it). Just make sure to allow ajustment with the rotor magnet for timing changes. I never trust what other people say, scientists or otherwise, the easies way to test something is to build it yourself and learn. Good luck with the torby motor, I will be replicating it within the week as well.

Jason

[lancaIV]

Two extra motor-concepts:
Gramberg DE3602039
LI YNG TYAN DE4402337(also as US 5463914 publicated)

Sincerely
? ? ? ? ? ? de Lanca

[Nastrand2000]

@LancaIV,

would it be possible to give links to the above patents......Many thanx.

Jason