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This device is the real self-running overunity?

Started by Arthurs, May 17, 2010, 03:45:15 PM

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Bruce_TPU

#65
May 24, 2010, 08:35:28 AM
Hi Airstriker and ALL,

I saw the importance of this man's work before this thread was started and posted it here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6116.msg238870#msg238870

I asked Stefan to make it a "sticky" which he did.  I will also ask him the same for this thread.  That is how important this is.

You all would do well to listen to Airstriker.  I believe he is correct and that this is a path towards using Lenz law and the law of angular momentum and Newton's third law: law of reciprocal actions to work FOR us.

I also really enjoyed the little simulation.  Notice that the two closest to the axle ran the fastest.  That would be a great set up.  Make the larger rotor small and light weight to gain even more speed!  Really great stuff and I hope that some will take it to heart.

I have been actively planning to adapt this to my unipolar generator I am building and now I have even more ideas.  Thank you Airstriker!

Cheers,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

gyulasun

#66
May 24, 2010, 08:47:14 AM
@Airstriker,

In the video ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3UsrfHa4MQ ) it is not shown that the wheel the man holds in his hands was speeded up first, the wheel had to be speeded up by an input energy, ok?

Now I ask if the inventor's rotor is at a total standstill, cylinder magnets are at a standstill too  and he starts the main rotor shaft spinning by switching the top electric motor on, then why will the cylinder magnets also start rotating around their own axis?  So far you have not proved it, sorry.

Because it does not turn out from your computer simulation that the magnets will start rotating.  It is your assumption, you assign a constant acceleration to the magnets. IF you think that the magnets start accelerating, when the main rotor is started to rotate, then please prove it in practice.

And from the inventor's videos we cannot see the magnets are speeding up when the main rotor is started, it is not shown, unfortunately.

Respectfully,  Gyula

Airstriker

#67
May 24, 2010, 09:24:04 AM
Quote from: gyulasun on May 24, 2010, 08:47:14 AM
@Airstriker,

In the video ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3UsrfHa4MQ ) it is not shown that the wheel the man holds in his hands was speeded up first, the wheel had to be speeded up by an input A, ok?

Now I ask if the inventor's rotor is at a total standstill, cylinder magnets are at a standstill too  and he starts the main rotor shaft spinning by switching the top electric motor on, then why will the cylinder magnets also start rotating around their own axis?  So far you have not proved it, sorry.

Because it does not turn out from your computer simulation that the magnets will start rotating.  It is your assumption, you assign a constant acceleration to the magnets. IF you think that the magnets start accelerating, when the main rotor is started to rotate, then please prove it in practice.

And from the inventor's videos we cannot see the magnets are speeding up when the main rotor is started, it is not shown, unfortunately.

Respectfully,  Gyula
All in it's time...
However, it's not that easy to be shown on the video. Note, that if you stop the main rotor suddenly, then by doing this you will accelerate the magnets and they will start to rotate in the same direction as the rotor used to. So, if they were rotating counterclockwise, now they are rotating clockwise (all according to the said laws).
The only way to show, that it really is how I'm saying it is, is to stop the main rotor without apllying any back torque on it.
You can ask - why not show the whole rotating thing during the motor action ? Well... I cannot see it by my eye, but If you possess any high speed camera...

exnihiloest

#68
May 24, 2010, 10:30:58 AM
Quote from: scotty1 on May 19, 2010, 08:13:11 PM
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So now I have to say that the magnet should be as "A" which makes sense according to the drill test that was shown in the videos.

If it is as "A" then the magnet is not rotating on its own axis so the coil will push it away and the force will not be directed to the main rotor as I saw in my test.
Hope this helps.
Scotty.

You are right. In case B, the magnet would rotate about its magnetic axis which is the same as its geometric axis. When a magnet rotates about its axis of magnetic symmetry, its field remains static therefore there would be no effect with the coil.


LarryC

#69
May 24, 2010, 06:29:11 PM
@All,

I agree with the results shown for A and B as tested here, but I think we are overlooking a lot of issues that Wendel has pointed out.

In his first video (self runner), he states that the motor runs on magnetic pressure.

He has magnetic compression bearings on both the magnet rotors and central rotor. All rotors have adjustable nuts for alignment.

Some have said that the magnetic compression bearings are not needed, but is that true. What if the magnetic compression bearings are required for the effect?

In the jpg below, I've shown a very simplistic scenario of what may be occurring.

1: The magnet has come under and charged the coil which will push the magnet down, which is allowed by the magnetic compression bearings.

2: The magnet downward movement causes the coil to reverse polarity.

3: The reverse polarity causes the Magnets upward movement which causes the coil to change polarity and push the magnet down again.

The polarity changes would allow for the spinning of the magnets.

Any constructive comments appreciated.

Regards, Larry

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