This device is the real self-running overunity?

[Airstriker]

As you all know I've been quite excited about this project. However, at the moment I have some doubts. First, and the most important thing, whatever I do, I cannot see the magnets spinning, not even a bit. They seem to be totally stationary. Maybe too small BEMF - will try different coils.
Second thing - the theory here has a small flaw. When the magnet is leaving the coil, the coil attracts the magnet - that's ok, as it should cause additional spinning. But... There is a point when the magnet wants to totally leave the coil (get out of it's attraction) and this is causing a drag. This would slow down the main rotor and stop the magnet's rotation (or slow it down, if the magnet's torque is greater than the attracting force). The best way to avoid this disadvantage would probably be to use only half wave rectification (only for the entrance part of movement - the magnet moving towards the coil). But this makes this machine a bit more complicated. Maybe somebody can do some tests with this as I don't have any spare time right now ? Maybe that's the reason why I cannot see the magnet rotating ? Should really do some more experiments.
And remember - the most important thing in this concept would not be the Lenz law avoidance, but it's utilization - the magnets should spin faster and faster and in this way accelerate the main rotor endlessly. The question is - can we really do that ?
PS. If you don't use magnetic bearings here, use only plastic ones (or ceramic but they are not cheap). Otherwise you will have quite a big drag on the bearing (magnets attracting the bearing's balls).
Have fun

[mijdtr]

airstriker,  your quote: “And remember - the most important thing in this concept would not be the Lenz law avoidance, but it's utilization- the magnets should spin faster and faster and in this way accelerate the main rotor endlessly. The question is - can we really do that ?”


i think this is the issue: utilization of Lenz law.  i don't think it was an intentional attempt at that outcome, just an added bonus. the freewheeling magnets i believe was an attempt at avoiding  Lenz law. not that they have to spin  but that they can if needed.  he did not know about lenz's law until he beat it and a utuber brought it to his attention.  he told me that.


there also is the delay issue.  i can explain the delays.  however it is not my place to do so. just know there are viable reasons for the delays that are beyond wendy's control.


as conrad so eloquently stated : “ It is of course up to the inventor, whether he wants to fully disclose his machine or not.”  i feel it important to state this:  i am no way paid to do this, and i am not here to take away any glory from wendy, and glory is not what wendy is wanting. it appears from what i have read in this forum, wendy is giving full and honest disclosure. i think anyone who thinks otherwise, is perhaps trying to read between the lines instead of actually absorbing the lines.  wendy and i have talked on that subject. i think we concurred.


the only thing i am here for is to defend wendy's honor from people who want to say he is up to tricks or fraud.


i have a questions for the people of this forum or elsewhere,,,,is anyone here paying wendy?  is he selling anything?  is anyone here or anywhere offered to invest, or invested in wendy device? 


i can answer this question: does wendy have any reason or incentive to fool or trick me? my answer is not that i can see. 


upon my visit, i found he has some backing from a small and honorable group of people.  his “backers” do it out of love for him and his family, and perhaps for a bit of money after things go into production.


i found he is somewhat weary after working on this project.


most important,,, i found it an amazing, wonderful, miracle, that he has gotten this far with the project.


if there is anything i am able to do for wendy, (as long as it is legal, and moral) i will do it.


and last but not least it is time for the subject of conrad's question to me: “ According to your personal opinion, Joe, have you seen there an "over unity machine"?   

what i have seen is: A: no hidden wires or batterys.  B: the two devices, one with the disks for a rotor, and and one with the “wings” in the rotor design. C: no deception or misrepresentation of him or his surroundings, no deception or misrepresentation from him, or his surroundings,  D: no deception or misrepresentation.  E: a generator that, i believe, has taken the cogging effect perhaps caused by BEMF and utilized it.  by design or accident,, it makes no difference to me. from what i have learned before and after finding that generator and wendy that is what i saw.

Smokey 2,  thank you for that post.  well said.  perhaps the comment: “it seems simple enough that a child could build one” is accurate.  however i have to add the child would have to know about balancing a rotor, engineering structural strength, and finding a strong enough governor.  perhaps the VR is a solution, could be you know more about these things than i.  however, i think  a mechanical load (perhaps the powering of a conventional electric generator) is needed to keep the generator ( i call it a “wendy-way”) from flying apart.  seems to me it is the load on the coils that create the BEMF that kicks the rotor.


so, in this post, i have taken the risk of saying too much, and perhaps getting a bit out of line.  may God, and wendy, forgive me if i have.

peace out, God bless, live and let live,
joe


So, in this post, I have taken the risk of saying too much, and perhaps getting a bit out of line.  May God, and wendy, forgive me if I have.

Peace out, god bless, live and let live,
joe

[mijdtr]

i forgot to ask airstriker,,, you mention an attraction of the magnets to the coil.  with an aircore coil there should there be no "attraction" to it?  am i missing something?  are you shorting the coils to represent what i call "a full load".  and am i mistaken in the thought: the shorting of the coils creates the fullest of possible electrical load?

thanks in advance.

peace, love, live, and let live,
joe

[mijdtr]

oh my god!!!   just reading this thread to reply #88.  I am sorry I even wrote to this forum.  I am not sure I can read on any further.  Perhaps I need to remember these posts are months old.  I will try to read repliers from last to first.

now sprocket has hit on the exact point at which I see the wendy-way as amazing.  He states “there's no chance I could leave my motor dangling precariously like he does, as it would quickly strangle itself with the power-cables! “ talking about an conventional generator.   

that is the whole point!!!!!!  so it not only reads more voltage on the meter that reads the coils ( 25 v or more) than the battery can produce, the rotor speeds up.

Yet few people see the significance in this fact: his powering motor is not “mounted” and yet rotor speeds up under load.  I hear an electric engineer say short the coil, to produce full load.  And someone else says that is no indicator and states it is a false indicator.  Which is it?   Does it represent full electrical load or not?

Perhaps I will read more before I post this.

My experiments with this type of subject matter, show the analogy of electricity being like water in plumbing to be accurate.  Push generator to feed  electric motor.  Add in the resistance of the wire and friction of the generator and motor and one needs more energy in the generator than what one needs from the motor to get the desired results from the motor. This goes along with conventional teachings of electricity.  So how can a shorted coil be like no coil at all?  The copper is still there. That in itself will create drag, won't it?

Are some of these people for real or just ballseeters??  I am lost and reminded why I got away from the internet for a few months.  Who to believe?   I have replicated the bedini.  I have replicated electric production of hydrogen. And the chemical production of hydrogen.  And because of lack of money, have not been able to precisely replicate wendy's way in what I feel is a stronger design.  Then I remember,, I dont have to replicate the wendy-way,  I have seen it work.

So it is time for people with a common cause to get together and pool the needed stuff to build a home sized generator before we are all 6 feet under water from global climate change!

I gotta get busy,  enough of this “he's fooling us, he's not fooling us crap that is only there because of all the fraud that has been, and still is out there.  The one viable amongst perhaps a few others wind up waiting to be developed.   

Which one of the people are the “new york” people that was giving wendell hope only to turn into a farce?

Are they part of this forum?

(end rant)

Peace, love, live, and let live,
joe

[gauschor]

Hey welcome and thanks for this new input. Great idea to visit this man 
Btw. I don't remember any people in here claiming that Wendell is a fraud or con man. Always had the feeling he was honest, but gave up hope lately that he will post his final selfrunner video and maybe something didn't work out as expected. It has been delayed for 3 months now, although he repeatedley claimed to have it ready in 2 days starting from day 1. I guess I need to be more patient and forgiving 

Regarding the device I think my own experiments failed because I didn't have big enough disc magnets and also I didn't know the recommended size of the copper coils. I think the size is very important. With small disc magnets unto a certain dimension it will not work. I'm not an electrical engineer therefore it's not so easy to guess by rule of the thumb which combinations of sizes of magnet/coillength/diameter of wire are necessary so the device will work as expected. That's where other new information is needed. Also how many of these wings / magnets and coils are necessary in order it self accelerates.

This issue with dimensions remembers me of an invention made 60 years ago (I guess it was the Mazenauer rotor): although it was replicated exactly in its shape and properties - only restriction it was scaled down half the original size - it didn't work anymore. The same problems we are encountering with Wendells construction.

I hope we will one day see a full demonstration of the capability of this device or get enough information about this seemingly "simple" device to replicate successfully.