Mehess Motor

[Humbugger]

*All you claim to know is IT CANNOT WORK

I claim to know somewhat more than that, but you are right...I know it will not and does not work.  Are you saying it does?

Question for Bill:  Back on Dec 2, as well as in many other posts, you said, "At this time I can run the motor to rewind the system totally from energy produced by the caps.  No external input totally self running closed loop!"

Were you lying outright, Bill?  Or do your imaginations, hopes and speculations, in your own mind, constitute real achievements? 

Were you lying to us or deluding yourself or both?  I'd say both.  Shame on you!

Please don't try to tell us that men in black made you change your machine so it now only lights up a dim LED and is not overunity...what really happened then?


Humbugger says "BAH"

[billmehess]

Is there something wrong with you? I think you need to take some sort of medication. I offered a olive branch and yet you continue this tirade. I wonder why it is even being allowed on this forum. Lighten up!
I am not going to respond to any more of your insults obviously you love to here yourself  so go ahead and rant away.

[Humbugger]

okay, Bill...but could you please just honestly answer the question about why you repeatedly and clearly said you had achieved OU?  did you lie or just make a mistake?  i promise if you give an honest answer, I'll never post in this thread again.

in fact...if you really tell everyone the truth behind your early claims and just really tell the world the story, i'll quit the whole forum permanently and never return.

[ltseung888]

Dear Bill,

I back you up 100% on your excellent work.  I am a moderator on another forum dedicated to Cosmic Energy Machines.  Some of your information is available on that forum:

http://forum.go-here.nl/viewtopic.php?t=16

We have the Lee-Tseung Lead Out theory that explains how the pulsed oscillation of a pendulum can Lead Out gravitational energy.  We used the boat in calm water and good sunshine scenario to overcome the roadblock of "where does the energy come from".

Since we know that the gravitational constant g can be effectively increased or decreased by the Ms. Forever Yuen set up, I would like to propose the following improvement to your experiments.

In your original set up of using the pendulum to swing two permanent magnets to coils to generate electricity, do the following modification:

(1) Make the pendulum arm longer.  Leave your set up in the original position.
(2) Put a permanent magnet at the end of this longer pendulum.
(3) Place another permanent magnet below the swing pendulum so that the two permanet magnets attract.  This increases the effective gravitational constant g.
(4) The frequency of the swing will increase.  Your clock should run faster.  More gravitational energy is extracted or Lead Out.
(5) This will reduce the time required to charge up the capacitors. 
(6) The permanent magnets will not lose their magnetic properties during the period of your experiments (They are rated to last >10 years).
(7) The energy and the time required to do the rewinding should be approximately the same. (This is an educated guess at present).

The additional effort in modifying your previous set up should be minimal but the results are likely to shock the World.

Regards,

Lawrence Tseung

[Humbugger]

Dear Larry,

You state:  "(7) The energy and the time required to do the rewinding should be approximately the same. (This is an educated guess at present)." 

You seem to share Bill's confusion about energy, power and time.  Just say...the energy...because the term "energy" already includes the time factor.  It is power multiplied by time, remember?  It is amazing to me how people in this forum cannot seem to keep that clearly in mind.  It is basic.  You wouldn't say "The kilowatt-hours and the hours required" or "the watt-seconds and the seconds required", why say the energy and the time required?  Energy is time...the amount of time that power is used.

Now...Do you mean the energy required to rewind it once or do you mean the energy required overall to sustain indefinite OU operation (perpetual motion)?  Nothing you have suggested will change the nature or energy storage capacity of the clock spring, so it clearly will always take the same energy input to go from fully unwound (or whatever percent unwound one decides to start the rewind procedure at) to wound fully tight.

You do acknowledge in (4) that a faster pendulum (no matter how it gets to be that way) will unwind the clock spring faster as well.  While it will obviously take the same amount of energy to rewind the spring each time, you will equally-obviously have to do the rewinding more often if you unwind it faster! 

Therefore, any advantage you get (5) in faster charging of the capacitors is totally cancelled by the fact that you must rewind sooner each time (more frequently overall) as well!  Why do you fail to mention this obvious fact? 

I guess because it ruins your theory of how to fix an unworkable system that is already far too complex for what it accomplishes by adding yet more elements!  Not exactly classical Eastern philosophy, Larry! 

Where is the approximation, guesswork or education needed (7) to understand these quite simple and clearly obvious facts?  It seems you are purposely obscuring them.